I just wanted to clarify to the noobs out there that Createx doesn't suck when you compare apples to apples. Just because some veteran says it stinks doesn't mean it does. Yes, Createx doesn't flow as well as Aqua Flow, that's just one brand example. I've used Aqua Flow and it flows much better. However, that shouldn't be the only determining factor. Consider price point, color density, wash fastness, and color options. Aqua Flow is a better textile paint overall, but it's almost twice the cost. Noobs who want to practice learning, I still suggest you use Createx. It doesn't hurt your wallet as much and you can waste all the paint you want while you practice. Plus, learning on a tougher paint will make it that much easier when transitioning to more expensive brands that do flow better. You'll really become an expert thinning paint and knowing what works and what doesn't.
That's just my opinion for beginners.
For those who dont read wall of posts-I'll abreviate and ya's can move on-Avoid Standard Createx LOL....
Opinions are the greatest thing in life and we all of course have a right to have one and I do value yours but still disagree, you even state that "learning on a tougher paint etc" which seems to suggest you consider Createx a Tougher Paint to learn..Great, on that we agree- thus why some veterans tell beginners not to use it in the first place. Why suggest to a beginner to make their life hard, to then find the saving grace of a paint that won't frustrate them as much down the track, instead of at the start?- Thats not really a good idea in any type of education method, do apprentice mechanics work on a porsche first?..
So yes some veterans also have the Beginners best interest at heart by telling them not to create that frustration in the first place-its one of the things that will see people walk away from what can be an awesome hobby and if we take as many paint issues and chinese airbrushes as we can out of beginners hands in the first place, they may discover they joy of airbrushing much earlier, so please don't suggest that anyone telling peeps not to buy that paint that will frustrate or be harder to learn are not looking at things fairly..We are in fact looking at its most important factor..
If you want to compare apples to apples I will and looking at price point, color density, wash fastness etc Createx can compare well to others, but they are not the important factors in most cases to a beginner....Ease of use is. But about them apples, I will still state that even across some of the points you make, createx is still at the bottom of the choice list Its an older paint-been around for many years yet even Createx themselves have moved into more modern day needs by creating other lines. As a textile paint it does suffice, as anything else it simply does not.
You mention pricing, pricing it ranks pretty low EG- To have it actually perform to some kind of standard you really need to reduce it correctly as you mention with the product that Createx has made especially for that purpose, water does not suffice and breaks its binders down pretty badly so when comparing price consider the reducing need too..
On steadfastness, yer its not bad as its larger pigment grind creates a more stable crystline lock or structure in the paints adhesion quality but for most parts it still sits on the surface of the fabric. I personally use Screen printing ink, being an ink and quite reducible with water it actually penetrates the fiber unlike many paints will creating a much more steadfast result..Oh and back to cost, my screen printing ink costs 19.99 for a 500 ml tub, add 12.99 for a bottle of flow medium and 2 cents worth of water and I can make about 3 liters of textile ink/paint for $30, thats $10 dollars a liter and could also be used as a practice alternative to createx, so indeed is the tried and trusted food colouring and paper towel method, lots of much cheaper alternatives to createx for practice....Ones that won't frustrate.
Your right about one thing though, Standard createx makes you work hard, its finicky on reduction, especially with water, due to pigment size it does not atomize as well at lower pressure-creating more overspray, it also requires a larger nozzle due to the grind, but when you finally, finally succeed with it after months of frustration, (thankfully most actually run out) many go out and read enough to move on from it, then suddenly realize the grass was greener on the other side....and life becomes easy and question why they feel months we're wasted.
Why not do that from the start? I have no desire to also do anything but assist a Beginner avoid these trapfalls and concentrate on what they really need to concentrate on at the start and that's their airbrush and perfecting its use, they can actually remove all other elements of frustration easy enough with the correct products as at the start the airbrush is frustrating enough all by itself, not paint woes- as that's a whole new learning curve..Soz for the wall but its not easy to respond to the points you make without actually responding LOL..remember also that most learning is done through success-not failure..failure affects confidence, confidence affects your control, no confidence repeats failure..a vicious circle that can be fixed or controlled only with success.
But I also do agree with you as a model paint, it sucks at that as well, doesn't just hide them but it obliterates the finer model details and even their shape LOL..BTW not bustin ya chops here, I appreciate a good intelligent discussion more than most and I do agree with some of your points but also want to validate mine and explain why some veterans may think Createx is crap but ultimately like anything it sometimes comes down to one thing..Try for yourself as you may have a different experience...
