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A cleaning question

Discussion in 'General Airbrush Discussion' started by Joe T, May 28, 2018.


  1. Joe T

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    so I clean according to the video Fred posted on YouTube. It was listed here as the thing to do. I do it to the letter and think I end up with a pretty clean AB. However, this morning my HP-B plus was acting up. I figured what the heck, tear it down. When I pulled the needle out I noticed a paint ring around th first third of th needle. It was hard, crusty. I was convinced I had been cleaning well and avoid tearing it down every time I use it but after seeing this paint ring I’m thinking maybe tear down or at least pull the needle after every use. If anything to lube the needle a bit.

    What am I doing wrong or is this normal after a weeks use? Is it bad to pull the needle after every use and wipe it down and lube? The nozzle looked fine. I just don’t want dried paint on the needle bearing inside

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    Joe
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    I pull mine at the end of the day
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    I pull the needle after each use. Actually I tear it down once per day...It only takes 30 seconds so why not...

    I remember my first tear down damn... I had printed parts guide in front of me, scared to do anything and I needed friking hour...
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    And I have no issue tearing it down or just pulling the needle but heard/read it cause undue wear and tear
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    I can't say whether it causes more wear and tear or not but undue , meh. What are we talking maybe you have to replace a $15 needle seal once every 5 years instead of ten? IDK
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    Clean as per Freds video, but pull the needle and wipe each time you clean. Lubing is argueable as to being necessary, you 'll remove most of the lube on the seal when you insert it. Its been awhile since i've seen Freds video, but i thought he mentioned it .

    A 'full tear down' invovles removing air cap / nozzle /head and cleaning them seperately.

    You need to keep in mind that Fred uses Etac paint, which is nowhere near as hard to clean as the Createx.
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    Thank you darling..not sure how I missed that. Now, to find a brush like Fred used to clean that needle packing bearing..every brush I have is too big for the .2 HP-B. Any suggestions where I can find one that small. I have the key ring one with several brushes but the smallest is still too big
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    Did he use a brush for the bearing ? I admit i only watched up to him wiping the needle, i'll go back and check
    wait right here . . . :)
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    phew, i'm to old for this rushing about malarky

    yes, Fred does indeed use a brush to clean the packing bearing, I'm shocked !! I have never cleaned it . never had the need to, but then again i dont pump out the volume of work that Fred does.

    In all honesty i have a set of micro brushes, they live in the toolbox in my shed. There is no way those brushes go anywhere near the inside of the airbrush, they're just a money making gimmick as far as i'm concerned. With the metal core its way to easy to scratch the inside of the airbrush, which will cause other issues when the seals dont seal like they should.

    I will either use an interdental brush (inside the cup channel, on a Sidecup paint channed or an artist brush for the nozzle/ inside of the aircap after both have been soaked in restorer.

    other than that my routine is listed here on another thread
    http://www.airbrushforum.org/thread...reatex-illustration-paints.19728/#post-301988

    What Paint are you using Joe ?

    ..
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    I got some of those for free, i used them to clean out some threads on the end of a pair of cylinder heads.

    Check out the ends of those things, all the ones ive seen were like they were snipped off with some wire cutters. Sharp jagged stiff steel wires and semi polished brass surfaces/teflon seals. No thanks, all the tiny gouges will make it harder and harder to clean over time.

    Some of the interdental brushes have metal cores too, but theyre so weak and tiny they dont worry me
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    Metal core on something that is designed to go inbetween your teeth ? ! all i have seen have been plastic core.
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    Oh yeah, lemme see if i can find one or a pic of one
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    OK, actually the majority have them, but many are plastic coated.
    Big thing is its basically always looped over at the end like you see on this one so the sharp ends are in the handle part.
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    there is no way that would get anywhere near my gums !!
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    I have a hard time finding any that arent like that
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    paint I’m using is golden fluids and golden high flow. Also wicked, com art and illustration..yea, I haven’t decided on a paint to stick to yet..I’m trying too many I think...lol..wait one can never have too much paint.lol
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    I bought some of those dental brushes and they work great, bad thing is getting to that packing for the needle... thI dental brushes I have are too short and I can’t seem to find longer ones to reach thru the body to get to th bearing if it even needs gotten too..lol. I do want to clean it when I can because one day I went to paint and when I pulled back no go..it was stuck a little. That tells me paint dried in the packing area.
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    I have some H&S brushes that work very well and they seem pretty soft.
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