Back in the mid 1980's National Geographic Magazine had a picture of an Afghan refugee with stunning eyes. I figured I'd give another try at color using this reference. For people just starting out, try to never scrap a piece without at least finishing all the way through. My way of painting at the moment creates a hideous painting halfway through but usually ends up coming out decent. Wait till you see some of these scary pics. 16"x20" Canson Illustration Board Etac EFX Iwata hp-cs The whites of the eyes look a tad whiter on the computer than reality. Also had a little problem with the black washing out a little on the phone pic. I used Etac paint on this and had absolutely no problems (graininess, etc) like I do with some Createx Illustration colors. I think I'll be sticking with Etac.