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littlerick
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Thanks Mel.. I have looked at Iwata's and yes they probably are the best, but with budget and cost of parts the H&S is more viable for me. I will however see if I can maybe get a better model in a 0.4 flavour!
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Melbee
Guest
Yes I think you will be much better off with the Evolution and it gives you far more options in the future. I believe the 0.4mm setup will be much better for your AutoAir paint too as well as being better to learn airbrushing. I've never used AutoAir but I have read that it can be difficult to spray and the larger nozzle setup will help. Good luck
splasha
Detail Decepticon!
In the begining - as with most Ab'ers I went the way of the "Cheapie, knock-off style" airbrush.
I bought an SCA (super cheap auto) airbrush kit that came with a .35 needle / nozzle set-up.
A copy of the Iwata hp series of AB, similar size shape, trigger design, etc.
Sure I got it to spray paint and some inks, etc, but it sure made control difficult.
I then bought a Veda 180 mac valve controlled model - again a cheapie, but I been so lucky with this one as I can get it to work fairly well.
Then, through a bizarre twist of fate, I was able to purchase an Iwata HP_CS.
Boy, am I in another world or what.
Unless you have experienced this complete change of EVERYTHING for yourself, I doubt you would believe that such things are even possible.
I can understand why the frustration gets to so many who wish to learn this wonderful hobby, and why some give it up -believing that they have no talent and that they couldn't ever learn such apparently "magical" skills.
I'm not saying that it's all in the brush - 'cause we all have some talent [latent or otherwise!}, but when you "feel" first hand, and see for yourself what the difference is, I wondered why I ever bothered with those other brushes in the first place.
In conclusion, my advice would be - get the best you can afford [ regardless of brand - imho a matter of personal preference ] and start with something in the .35 - .5mm range.
This will allow you to cover both ends of the learning curve you're about to embark on.
Above all, enjoy whatever it is you do.
We are all our own worst critics.
I bought an SCA (super cheap auto) airbrush kit that came with a .35 needle / nozzle set-up.
A copy of the Iwata hp series of AB, similar size shape, trigger design, etc.
Sure I got it to spray paint and some inks, etc, but it sure made control difficult.
I then bought a Veda 180 mac valve controlled model - again a cheapie, but I been so lucky with this one as I can get it to work fairly well.
Then, through a bizarre twist of fate, I was able to purchase an Iwata HP_CS.
Boy, am I in another world or what.
Unless you have experienced this complete change of EVERYTHING for yourself, I doubt you would believe that such things are even possible.
I can understand why the frustration gets to so many who wish to learn this wonderful hobby, and why some give it up -believing that they have no talent and that they couldn't ever learn such apparently "magical" skills.
I'm not saying that it's all in the brush - 'cause we all have some talent [latent or otherwise!}, but when you "feel" first hand, and see for yourself what the difference is, I wondered why I ever bothered with those other brushes in the first place.
In conclusion, my advice would be - get the best you can afford [ regardless of brand - imho a matter of personal preference ] and start with something in the .35 - .5mm range.
This will allow you to cover both ends of the learning curve you're about to embark on.
Above all, enjoy whatever it is you do.
We are all our own worst critics.
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littlerick
Guest
Decided I'm gonna get a evolution 2 in 1. Around £130 the cr version has teflon seals so think its the baby... Just need to get another £129 together!
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littlerick
Guest
I might go for the normal one then... it looks nicer.
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ad fez
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Just me 2 pence worth as I do 1 actually really like badger....... For the same price (total of 129 including shipping and taxes) you can get a badger krome imported from the states? Just my 2 pence worth.......
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littlerick
Guest
Liked the look of this... until I saw the nozzle size.. I dont think I would find one of them if I put it down on a white sheet.
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littlerick
Guest
Its decided... well almost.... I'm gonna go for the H&S Evolution..... Now its between the Evolution 2 in 1, the Evolution silverline 2 in 1 or the Evolution CR 0,4. I do like the CR, but mainly coz of the needle cap, I can buy it for £4 so i might end up with one of the 2 in 1 kits and a tip!
Still need a little more cash.. but probably have enough by end of the week... Tell the wife.... after its delivered
Still need a little more cash.. but probably have enough by end of the week... Tell the wife.... after its delivered
jagardn
Airbrush Acquisition Disorder Patient
Its decided... well almost.... I'm gonna go for the H&S Evolution..... Now its between the Evolution 2 in 1, the Evolution silverline 2 in 1 or the Evolution CR 0,4. I do like the CR, but mainly coz of the needle cap, I can buy it for £4 so i might end up with one of the 2 in 1 kits and a tip!
Still need a little more cash.. but probably have enough by end of the week... Tell the wife.... after its delivered
I would doubt the CR+ air cap and pronged needle protector are £4. The pronged cap may be that price, but you can't use it with the standard Evo air cap. You would need the proper air cap that is used with the pronged needle guard and a gasket for the cap if it doesn't come with one. There are different air cap assemblies to go with the respective nozzles. One air cap for the .15 and .2 nozzles, then a different one to go with the .4mm.
To shorten all that crap above, if you want the pronged cap, just get the CR+ because it already comes with all the right parts.
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RebelAir
Air-Valve Autobot!
Haha after ya realize iwata are um cough ***** LOL, get a Badger.Go a Patriot if you want a bigger needle size, great starters gun and you can convert it to high detail needles real easy with their superfine conversion kit..My 2 cents are iwata are way over priced, have half the service badger does and parts are way to costly..Lets see if that brings the Iwata lovers outta the closet LOLOL..
But it is a personal thing, started off with iwata and must admit it did well enough until I moved to a better brand LOL...
LOLOL..But it is a personal thing, started off with iwata and must admit it did well enough until I moved to a better brand LOL...
MeeshellMP
Goddess Queen of carts
BADGER KROME!!!!!!! (too much?)
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littlerick
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Thanks for input guys.. getting the evolution 2 in 1 TODAY... Thanks Mel for the info on Ultra... Made me step up a little! Guess the shyte brush excuse is gonna be no good any more!
