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Discussion in 'General Airbrush Discussion' started by J000seph, Mar 30, 2018.


  1. J000seph

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    Help me put together a list!

    I want to make a list of Japanese airbrush brands that were manufactured in the Fuso Seiki factory.

    These are good quality airbrushes and many have interchangeable parts.

    Iwata, Olympos, BB Rich, Rich Pen, Siki ? Is Mr. Hobby Procon Boy made there? I’ve heard of others..

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    As best as I can tell, no one will really say. I have a few airbrushing acquaintances in Japan, and they don't even know. I have tried pushing the new Olympos ownership for answers, but he just talks in circles. Iwata has never said one way or another... I suspect that Fuso Seiki is the go to manufacturing facility for many brands (Oh, I think they have a new name, now - I have heard 2 people refer to it not as "Fuso", but something else I can't recall at the moment). I have seen enough from enough different brands to know that if they are not being made on the same machines, then they are sharing the same code for CNC...
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    Are there any names missing from the ones I listed that you would suspect are made with the same machinery? Hohmi?
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    I also recently saw on Coast Airbrush live feed that some Tamiya brushes are made by Iwata. I didn’t know that.
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    Holbein isnt made in the same factory
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    Holbein, wasn't made in the same factory; these days, I am not so sure - their most recent offerings are dead ringers for Iwata HP-B and HP-C, including nozzle threading... I have the Y and Y-Dash series brushes, and they are most certainly not made the same as the Toricon brushes. There are a few other brands that are available in Japan that could share common sources as well - Airtex comes to mind, as well as Wave. Like I said, it is so difficult to tell, because no one ever just says that parts are made here or there... or so and so has a manufacturing facility located at such and such. So, it remains mostly just speculation.
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    I forgot about Wave. I want to try a couple of these lesser known brands.
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    I'll keep an eye out for your experiences. I have my hands in vintage American brushes at the moment, with my eyes set on some European brands that may be next ;). Efbe, Heikel, Grafo, etc..
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    :eek: I'd love to see a pre-H&S Grafo or Hansa. And for some dumb reason I'd like to find an H&S Focus.
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    I’m a fan of your exploration page :)
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    there is a mildly older (maybe mid to late 70's) Hansa on ebay now...
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    Is that the "151 areo pro"?
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    This older Mr Hobby handpiece looks more like an Iwata than the newer Procon Boy PS-770

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    These are made by Gunze?
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    I am pretty sure they used to be branded by Gunze, but not made by them. I have several head sets, nozzles, and needles from Procon GSI brushes, and aside from surface finishes, they are identical to those on Iwata Brushes. I have GSI PS770 head on Micron, and have used the nozzle needle combo in another one.
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    I saw on their website they say:

    “GSI Creos" (former "Gunze Sangyo)
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    right - but I think that means they were called, or named, or branded as "Gunze Sangyo" and are now branded as "GSI Creos" - but, I suspect they are actually made by someone else, possibly Fuso Seiki. Down to the last few thousandths of an inch, the PS770 is identical to a CM-C Micron, with the exception of intentional details. Under magnification, even the machine marks on the nozzles are identical down to the swirl marks...

    My understanding about Gunze is that they used to have some high end manufacturing capabilities (not sure about AB's, but they make/made extremely high end model kits) until hit by an earthquake. Since then, they have been importing, and re-branding with limited manufacturing capabilities.
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    I suspected that. Your observations about the tool marks seems to confirm the rumors :)
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    Iwata do a spraygun Aset Iwata IWA9274 1.4 Air Gunsa ?? you mentioning gunza so could they be associated with Iwata?.. Anyway what I posted here for, what about Royal Soverign,not sure where theyre from though.

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    To throw another wrench in the works, as far as I could tell fuso doesnt own a manufacturing facility , Just offices. Which makes me think they are actually just a sourcing type place. Could be wrong
    In any case, In all likelyhood, as with most manufacturing there is no single plant that makes an entire anything. Chroming is done one place, nozzles are sourced from another, hard soldering is done somewhere else, so on and so forth.
    So its entirely likely that every japanese brand uses a lot of the same parts.
    Same as you can find walbro carbs on almost every single small engine brand since the 50's at least.
    Buy any US vehicle and chances are GWR makes the seatbelts.
    Richpen is all fuso admits to and may actually be the only brand they deal with but that doesnt mean that 5 other brands arent getting their nozzles from the same place fuso sourced them from or source them through fuso.
    All of the nozzles could come from "Harutos machine shop"
    While all the bodies are made by "Tanaka inc."
    But then chroming is done at one of three places depending on the company and the year.
    This is how I currently see it.

    Air gunsa and gunze sangyo are totally different companies as far as i could tell.
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