Im not sure if this is the right place for this, but @RichardH has got my head realin with this thing they call scratchboard. I did some research on this and found out that this was really popular in the late 1800's and into the 20th century, but it gas become a dying art as most have went to the digital age. Now what they use is mostly clayboard with india ink on top of it. Ive looked in every art shop in the city and cant find it. Every shop that has a web site says they have it but in a warehouse and not the store. So my mind working like it does started searching for another way and i think ive found it. I had another 5x7 piece of gesso board lying around so i shot the panel with india ink. Damn fogot to resize pics to fit. Pics will come in the next post.