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The Eye tutorial

Discussion in 'How to Control an Airbrush' started by MacRaven, Oct 15, 2014.


  1. MacRaven

    MacRaven Young Tutorling

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    Hi,

    i just finished my very first attempt to "draw" something.
    It was, as the title says, the Eye from the tutorials.
    Like said it is my very first time doing something else than just a plain base or clear coat.
    I think i need to practice much more on strokes for the eyelashes and some more smoothness in the fades and shades.

    My setup was my Iwata Neo CN, the paper is a simple presentation paper with 120g and the color is Schmincke black no 28 702.

    Let me know what you think.
    eye1.jpg

    MacRaven
    Last edited: Oct 15, 2014
  2. Jonny Dexter

    Jonny Dexter Double Actioner

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    its a great job, some nice blends in there. fine lines are tricky to get right ( i fail more than succeed) but try reducing and dropping pressure.
  3. basepaint

    basepaint Air-Valve Autobot!

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    Keep it up it looks good for the first one ever,save it and then try it again in a few months and see how much you improved
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    Squishy Queen Clown Slayer Mod

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    I second basepaint!

    I found the daggerstroke the hardest thing to get to grips with, and even now, if I stop to think about how to do it, I am not relaxed and can mess up. So I don't think about it. Just keep practicing them, and you will be able to do it no problem :)
  5. MacRaven

    MacRaven Young Tutorling

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    Yes the daggerstroke is really what i need to practice more. Actually i must really think the process. I must literally tell myself what to do when i do it.
    It is a move that does not go in my brain that easy. Shading is nothing that gives me such trouble when i am not rushing it.
    But the strokes.
    Is there anything that can make it easier to learn them? Or just repeating them over and over like a brainless machine ?
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    Squishy Queen Clown Slayer Mod

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    Repeating over and over builds up muscle memory, and eventually it becomes second nature. Will bore you to tears doing it though Lol. So mix it up with other stuff, but every time you get your brush out to do something, do a sheet of these first. The not thinking part sounds counter intuitive I know, but when you are concentrating hard to get the right movements, you aren't generally relaxed, your movement can become stilted, and your grip less natural. To stop over thinking I play a favourite album, something that I know and can sing along to, so that I am not over focusing, which helps me relax and my movements become looser.
  7. splasha

    splasha Detail Decepticon!

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    I guess the best analogy would be like learning to play golf.
    If you have no idea what to do, you just swing and miss. When some one shows you how to hold the club, how to draw it away and swing it back, you hit the ball.
    Children have very few problems learning the basics of such things, because [in their eyes] you just hit the ball like they see dad [or mom, sorry!} do; and they just DO.
    The repetition is , as Squishy so rightly said, to teach muscle memory similarly to the above.
    Once learned, however, you can "set and forget" - and get on with whatever takes your fancy, knowing you CAN do it right!
  8. MacRaven

    MacRaven Young Tutorling

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    @splasha yes but your analogy has one issue. Someone to watch. That is my problem, i am more someone that really needs a visual example.
    I am someone who needs someone to look over the shoulder and see what he does. And when trying for myself, someone that can explain what happens.
    It is curious i just recently did three more papers of strokes but i then i get a feeling something must be wrong and have no one to ask if it normal behavior of my equipment or is it me or the colors. That is what i am missing at most, someone i could ask because it is not possible to clarify everything via the web. I am getting better but sometimes i just miss a more direct response here in my little chamber.
    Learning that way is a harder way imho.
    Don´t get me wrong i don´t grumble about that, i just got aware of that fact.
    This time i am really alone with my airbrushing. Usually i had friends doing similar things, or i had some background of new stuff i learned but this time i am completely on my own and have no one to talk with, that is close by and can give me his/her opinion. This is an interesting new perspective of learning something new.
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    The airbrush tutor is having issues with connection right now, but I believe he does skype lessons, which may be a good option for you. Or maybe there are other members near to you that could get together? Or a class? Or if you are able to film what you are doing, you could post the vid, and ask the questions that way. I know the guys here will get you pointed the right way.

    I know where you're coming from. I don't know anyone else who airbrushes in my real life. When I was learning I didn't even think to look online cos I'm an idiot, and struggled through alone, blindly, not getting anywhere. I didn't even know what the strokes were, or that you were supposed to reduce paint. Clueless doesn't even come close Lol. Even when the penny dropped and I looked on the internet it still took a long while for me to get to grips with things, especially the daggerstroke. But eventually it all fell into place.
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    I was very similar to yourself, in that there was no-one else (that I knew of,at the time) in my area, and the nearest classes were 80 km away in my capital city.
    I thought "damn it, I want to do this stuff", so I got on-line, watched heaps of you-tube vids, went to my local trade (auto) paint supplier: watched vids and asked heaps of questions.
    Then I found this place; best "find" ever!
    Got some of my problems sorted, got myself a better gun, learnt ( and still learning!:laugh:) what I can and cannot get away with, and just enjoying creating things.
    This has gotta be the best internet community everlol:thumbsup:!
    Hope you find it the same as I have, and don't worry, YOU ARE DEFINATELY NOT ALONE!
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    Firepriest Diligent Daggerstroker

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    Here,here.
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    I love this forum, so many greAT PEOPLE HERE!!
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    I really understand your prob, I sit and do these strokes and dots for hours and look at the results and wonder what Im doing wrong, I hve a friend who has ab all his life. 40 plus years, but he lives 3 hours away it wpild be so helpfull to have someone to watch actually painting and telling you how toos.
    I am going to join the elite club here so I can access more vids, next best thing!!
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    I don't know if this will make any sense, but when I started out there were only the guys that did shirts and actually knew all of the cars asked for and did them quickly and that impressed me. Well, then I started to work with laquers on vans and cars and did well back then with freehand detail. Next I got into clothing and started applying everything I learned into more detail. On shirts it came easy for the most part and I had fun working in a mall. The point is now I have to break some bad habits that were easily fixed. The dagger, dot and lines came easy to me then, but now I have to settle down and use MORE that I learned in a more serious way. In this forum you all make it look easy to sit back and use frisket and such, but I tend to want to still freehand everything. *Cocking gun at head and pulling trigger* But on here I'm learning and enjoying seeing all of your work and the sbs. I hope you all can put up with my fumbling till I put into mine what all of you do with yours. Thanks to all of you.

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