Improving The Airbrush...

Hey @crewchief227 , can you read the people thoughts?:) For I'm working on the micron head now. Another donor would be just in time! But unfortunately, no needle you need, no O-rings here:D Though, I know someone.;)
Hey if it's for the cause maybe. I also have some air caps from a Micron. One however would just be for shape experimentation, as it had a needle that got damaged tear a slit in the hole, and I have another one where the hole is just a hair too big. Those I'll just send for the heck of it if you want them. :thumbsup:
 
Thanx Lee!

Actually, the last mod "thru bullet head" has been done by inspiration of old UK made Conopois and Conograph. They had some kind of bullet head design of the air cap, but with the prongs. I don't find those prongs to be convenient, that's why did what I did:) So, you're completely right it's kinda retro-space combination.
In back years they manufactured many different ABs, some things I consider to be very good ideas that should be used in the modern models.

Once you start doing something to the thing, you start to see that it's far from being perfect and can be further improved. And you can not stop:)
When you think that smth is close to be perfect, just pull out 45X magnifier and the thing becomes again the thing needing to be improved;)
The family of the guy who made the Conograph still run an airbrush supply business. They’re my local place that I buy spares and Createx products. Great people and they have a couple of the old brushes on display. They’re Airbrushes.com


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Hey if it's for the cause maybe. I also have some air caps from a Micron. One however would just be for shape experimentation, as it had a needle that got damaged tear a slit in the hole, and I have another one where the hole is just a hair too big. Those I'll just send for the heck of it if you want them. :thumbsup:

Thanx!

There's not much that can be done to the micron air cap. What I've shown, that's almost all, I think experimentation wouldn't bring anything new. Though, I work on smth else, but the shape of the air cap remains almost identical.
For making different shape I need another design of the cap and this design is not manufactured.
If I have some equipment, I'll make that cap. I have some design in my mind, just need to experiment.

If that one with too big hole is 0,18mm you could screw it on 0,23mm. Maybe you'll find it great.

Anyway, thank you! Good gesture from you, much appreciated:thumbsup:


The family of the guy who made the Conograph still run an airbrush supply business. They’re my local place that I buy spares and Createx products. Great people and they have a couple of the old brushes on display. They’re Airbrushes.com


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I think they don't manufacture ABs for the reason these days manufacturing hand made tools wouldn't bring reasonable money. China and CNCs and other, you know:)
Looking at the Conopois products I know how much effort one need to make for having that tool done. Tech masterpieces!:thumbsup:
 
Me too. I'm working on something for the aircap. Though right now I'm just using Chinese parts to experiment with.

I've got Chinese one ready;) But not plated yet, so don't want to show yellow result. Wanna show it chrome shiny.
Besides, will do similar to Japanese head. And the second "besides" I have some thoughts more on improving the head. One thought - Chinese and some Japanese models pushed me to that (I think, you've come to that idea also;)), another one - my original thought.

I wonder who will be the first to show the result:)
 
I've got Chinese one ready;) But not plated yet, so don't want to show yellow result. Wanna show it chrome shiny.
Besides, will do similar to Japanese head. And the second "besides" I have some thoughts more on improving the head. One thought - Chinese and some Japanese models pushed me to that (I think, you've come to that idea also;)), another one - my original thought.

I wonder who will be the first to show the result:)
You will.
What I'm working on is to do with the aircap, and shows some promise to improve performance. Not that there's a lot of room to improve, but I think I might get that last tiny bit squeezed out of it.
 
You will.
What I'm working on is to do with the aircap, and shows some promise to improve performance. Not that there's a lot of room to improve, but I think I might get that last tiny bit squeezed out of it.

Are you making new cap or just squeezing from Chinese cap?
 
Well, right now i have no ability to do non standard threads that size so I'm modding existing caps.
If it works out well, they'll probably be made from scratch

I think what you would do, would not say the whole truth unless being done combined with Japanese nozzle. Chinese thick walled nozzles spoil the performance in the end.
 
I have a Micron head core (no nozzle, air cap) that has a scratch from long ago, thankfully I have the iwata pliers now, but I'd be willing to trade that core to one of you tinkerers here, for perhaps a space needle, and o-ring :D

I had a thought though for the modders here, I was thinking about how to improve the inner surface of the nozzle. Two thoughts came to mind, using diamond paste on an old needle to lap the inside of the nozzle. I used to have a gunsmithing hobby. They have lapping compounds to smooth out the finest abrasions in the bore of a barrel. Even one guy invented lapping bullets you can reload, and just shoot them thru, the lazy way. The regular way is with a cleaning rod and working it up and down the bore. That's why I was thinking diamond paste on a needle spun by a drill. Or the other option is creating a lapping needle. Instead of the quest for the smoothest needle, instead purposely create a needle that has a micro abrasive surface. Granted we're talking some extreme delicate work, as the nozzles are already so damn thin, and obviously not steel like a gun barrel that can take some abuse. These may be awful ideas, or good ones idk. But if we had a smoother surface inside the nozzle, we might be able to lower the surface tension threshold of the paint, allowing a smoother transition from no paint, just tip dry, to fine lines. Has anyone managed to have access to imaging equipment that can look inside a nozzle? I might, if I go to the engineering department of my school, the third largest in my state.
Polishing the nozzle interior I feel like is a losing battle.
Whether you can manage an improvement on it ...I have no idea but what i do know is the polish wouldn't last long In a stainless nozzle.
 
well boys you know who wants to test all improvements you can come up with and Robby you know I would be more than interested in the one part I mentioned ;)
Some of this stuff I may just make one of for someone that wants it.
Whether the business is working out or not I still just like to have someone using a design I did..... We'll see how it unfolds.
 
Some of this stuff I may just make one of for someone that wants it.
Whether the business is working out or not I still just like to have someone using a design I did..... We'll see how it unfolds.
so far I am impressed with the improvements you, Vladimir and Dave have come up with , the O ring seal is just what the doctor ordered for those who long for that good old rubber seal feel but love the solvent proof seals , the rocket balm lubes a 14 year old hard seal like it is new and even if I havent had the chance to test the SN needle to the max my first impressions are real good and there is one thing that has been on my wish list for a long time : a needle guide that has less friction when you move it :) the rest will be a bonus if I can afford it that is :D
 
Developed new sealing nut for new soft O-rings. Works great.
Looks not the same as stock one for some reasons, thought it could be manufactured having exactly the same shape.
One reason is I don't like stock nuts, as it's not possible to see what's been dialed, one can only trust the feel of the needle movement. It's for the reason stock nut has 3 "rays" design. Mine has only one and its much better to see what I dial each time. It's especially important for soft seal where your needle is sealed at the moment the O-ring just touches the AB body inside, what's not possible to do with the stock look, you need to see at what position O-ring touches the body for further tightening/loosing the seal. Generally, it's all about better control of the seal.
Another thing is tightening the nut from outside the body (from the window) works not for better centering the nut inside the body, that affects the nozzle centering also.
This one gives better control of paint leak, if one would appear.

The thing looks like that installed in the tool.

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