Best airbrush ever?
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Robbyrockett2
Air-Valve Autobot!
No matter how diluted, the pigment size doesn't change.
My best guess is that dye based ink is the only thing that will come out of a .1 consistently.
Robbyrockett2
Air-Valve Autobot!
I think you would almost have to use the wax press method of pigment extraction used by some old masters to get a pigment small enough to not clog on a frustratingly frequent basis for oil paints.
Robbyrockett2
Air-Valve Autobot!
Lol I suppose I was probably guessing along the right lineshe works with "old holland" extra fine oil colours, maybe this helps to write "paul" in less a millimeter!!
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Young Tutorling
Yes, I think this too
, here is the thinner: https://www.facebook.com/PoulCarbajalOficial/photos/a.230508980457180/358217424353001
Robbyrockett2
Air-Valve Autobot!
Well, after looking even wax press doesn't get a fine enough particle size.....but yeah, extremely fine or no pigment at all would be key.Yes, I think this too
Leakyvalve
Mac-Valve Maestro!
Man I miss when all the airbrush forums were in full swing.
DaveG
Airbush Analyst
I am familiar with this brush. It is a "prototype" being designed by someone - We have spoken a few times. Although ,we have a language barrier, so info is a bit difficult to come by. He uses a proprietary oil based paint, which is the only thing that seems to work through his test set ups. I have talked with someone else that sings the praises of what they are calling the "induction system" and I don't buy the premise. It does sound like a bunch of hocus pocus to me, especially having some background with air flow dynamics and such.
The prototype is based on an Olympos brush, perhaps with some very recent cooperation directly from Olympos. It sees to me that many of the images associated with the brush, and it's claims are actually very slick CGI made to look like studio photographs.
DaveG
Airbush Analyst
yo
u need look no further than an Iwata Eclipse for an example of their "Lateral Induction" system
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Young Tutorling
not really Dave, searching more info for the "lateral induction system" and I found it in his FB: https://www.facebook.com/PoulCarbajalOficial/posts/1065027893671947 but not understand yet
DaveG
Airbush Analyst
I have several .12 brushes nozzles and needles, and find that they will not do anything I can't do with my .18's, or even a well working .2. Both these are .12's -
Looking for something finer, or better for every day use... chasing a snipe
DaveG
Airbush Analyst
you can tell me not really all you want... this brush is not new news to me.not really Dave, searching more info for the "lateral induction system" and I found it in his FB: https://www.facebook.com/PoulCarbajalOficial/posts/1065027893671947 but not understand yet
I've got drawings and diagrams provided that show the differences between the stock and the Induction system, etc... I left that conversation this way - I think that what they explain defies physics, and I am more than willing to purchase a brush when available to be able to see it for myself - till then, it is balderdash.
find out what I already have to work with... https://www.facebook.com/davegs.airbrush.exploration/
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Young Tutorling
so please, can you explain us how the lateral induction system works?. I think the system have nothing to do with the iwata eclipse as you said.
Robbyrockett2
Air-Valve Autobot!
It's been in development for 6 years and hasn't moved forward at all ....
Looking a little closer though it seems to be maybe a mesh filter on the side of the brush.
Made to intake air perhaps.
I certainly can't think of any way that could be used beneficially aside from marketing hocus pocus.
But eh, maybe in another 6 years we will find out.
Looking a little closer though it seems to be maybe a mesh filter on the side of the brush.
Made to intake air perhaps.
I certainly can't think of any way that could be used beneficially aside from marketing hocus pocus.
But eh, maybe in another 6 years we will find out.
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Young Tutorling
no please!
more years to get one, no way!!
DaveG
Airbush Analyst
it doesn't work - it is just a marketing thing to make you drool. They did away with the convoluted air passage that connects the air valve to the front of the body of the airbrush, to deliver air to the head. They went with a straight air passage, which is exactly the same as the Iwata eclipse, and called it more precise. Look for the illustrations of the spray pattern they have posted - you will see what I mean about defying physics.so please, can you explain us how the lateral induction system works?. I think the system have nothing to do with the iwata eclipse as you said.
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Young Tutorling
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It really does not work? that's very weird. Did you talk to paul directly? But ok, thanks for your information.
Robbyrockett2
Air-Valve Autobot!
It's actually really common in development. The first incarnation almost never works like it's supposed to.
I tested 8 broad needle materials and variations in each category before arriving at my needle material. Then still needed 3 different tries at exact specs to get what I wanted and i was extremely fortunate it didn't take many many more.
The first of the three was a complete disaster and I almost gave up on that setup right then and there.
