A new oldie
- Thread starter Grahame
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hi Grahame 
Thanks for the encouragement. When I start something , it seems I go overboard… so ended up with quite a bit of good equipment that has been sitting idle for some time now. Brushes….Iwata CM-C plus, CM-SB, HP-CH , HP-C (50th anniversary model) and HP-BCS Hammerhead Shark and HT-975 compressors. I moved into smaller dwellings some time back and haven’t touched a brush, so pondering whether or not to set up in a closet or what?
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According to what I was reading on internet, acrylic and waterbased paint can be good for more then decade if unopened.
qoute from google:
Paint's Shelf Life
The shelf life of paint depends on the type and whether the paint container has been opened. Solvent-based oil or alkyd paints can remain usable for up to 15 years if they were never opened and always kept away from temperature extremes. Water-based acrylic and latex paints can stay good for up to 10 years if never opened and kept from freezing. Leftover paints that have been opened should be closed up tightly, stored in a cool, dry place and used within two years.
qoute from google:
Paint's Shelf Life
The shelf life of paint depends on the type and whether the paint container has been opened. Solvent-based oil or alkyd paints can remain usable for up to 15 years if they were never opened and always kept away from temperature extremes. Water-based acrylic and latex paints can stay good for up to 10 years if never opened and kept from freezing. Leftover paints that have been opened should be closed up tightly, stored in a cool, dry place and used within two years.
Also wanna add I never seen so big bottle of restorer
wickedartstudio
Mac-Valve Maestro!
A long time... I have opened bottles of Auto Air Colors from when they were originally released (about 14 or 15 years ago, give or take). Every now and then I'll find one that has dried up, but most of them are still good to go. Obviously, they aren't the newest formulation, but that doesn't really matter in most cases.
Thanks for that info. Would not be a good idea to set up on the kitchen table……my remaining years would be severely
lessened!
I recall buying the large bottle of restorer as it was considerably cheaper in that form.. now I am not even sure what it is you use it to restore….
lessened!
I recall buying the large bottle of restorer as it was considerably cheaper in that form.. now I am not even sure what it is you use it to restore….
It is used for cleaning real stubborn stuff. And if I am not mistaken it is not good to be sprayed. They soak stuff in it. The trick is if I am not mistaken, restorer can be reused over and over again, that's why I had a giggle when I seen that big bottle
from Createx site, maybe you will found this usable.
Description
4008 Restorer is a biodegradable cleaner for removing cured paint from an airbrush, spray-gun and any surface.
Usage
4008 is used as a bath to soak metallic parts in. 4008 may also be wiped onto paint-covered parts. 4008 partially dissolves cured, water-based paint allowing for easy clean-up with soap and water.
4008 begins to dissolve cured paint upon contact. After a minimum of 10 minutes, cured paint should be easy to scrub off with soap and water. Parts may soak in 4008 for an extended time. It is OK to soak parts overnight after painting, cleaning and rinsing the following day.
Flush with water thoroughly after cleaning with 4008. Even trace amounts of 4008 will affect paint. After flushing with water, spraying with 5618 Airbrush Cleaner or 4012 will acclimate the airbrush or spray-gun for paint.
Do not spray 4008 through the airbrush or spray-gun. Use as a soak or wipe onto the cured paint. Use 5618 Airbrush Cleaner or 4012 as a rinse to clean colors from airbrush or spray-gun while painting.
4008 dissolves soft plastics. Keep away from stencils, soft plastics and O-rings other than polytetrafluoroethylene (PTFE) coated rings. 4008 is safe to use with harder plastics such as styrene.
Pot-Life & Storage
4008 does not have a pot-life. It may be used multiple times for repeated cleanings as a bath even after the liquid has become discolored.
Keep in a metallic or ceramic container, such as a coffee mug, with a cover. For long term storage, keep air tight in a cool dry box or cabinet away from sunlight.
Health & Safety
Use in a well-ventilated area. Avoid contact with eyes. Wash hands thoroughly with soap and warm water after use. Do not ingest.
When spraying or sanding, use a properly-fitting NIOSH approved respirator per the manufacturer’s instructions.
Skin contact: Thoroughly wash with soap and warm water. Wearing gloves is recommended.
Eye contact: Rinse with clean water for 15 minutes. Seek medical attention.
Inhalation: Use in in well ventilated areas and wear a NIOSH approved respirator.
Refer to 4008 SDS for additional information.
Description
4008 Restorer is a biodegradable cleaner for removing cured paint from an airbrush, spray-gun and any surface.
Usage
4008 is used as a bath to soak metallic parts in. 4008 may also be wiped onto paint-covered parts. 4008 partially dissolves cured, water-based paint allowing for easy clean-up with soap and water.
4008 begins to dissolve cured paint upon contact. After a minimum of 10 minutes, cured paint should be easy to scrub off with soap and water. Parts may soak in 4008 for an extended time. It is OK to soak parts overnight after painting, cleaning and rinsing the following day.
Flush with water thoroughly after cleaning with 4008. Even trace amounts of 4008 will affect paint. After flushing with water, spraying with 5618 Airbrush Cleaner or 4012 will acclimate the airbrush or spray-gun for paint.
Do not spray 4008 through the airbrush or spray-gun. Use as a soak or wipe onto the cured paint. Use 5618 Airbrush Cleaner or 4012 as a rinse to clean colors from airbrush or spray-gun while painting.
4008 dissolves soft plastics. Keep away from stencils, soft plastics and O-rings other than polytetrafluoroethylene (PTFE) coated rings. 4008 is safe to use with harder plastics such as styrene.
Pot-Life & Storage
4008 does not have a pot-life. It may be used multiple times for repeated cleanings as a bath even after the liquid has become discolored.
Keep in a metallic or ceramic container, such as a coffee mug, with a cover. For long term storage, keep air tight in a cool dry box or cabinet away from sunlight.
Health & Safety
Use in a well-ventilated area. Avoid contact with eyes. Wash hands thoroughly with soap and warm water after use. Do not ingest.
When spraying or sanding, use a properly-fitting NIOSH approved respirator per the manufacturer’s instructions.
Skin contact: Thoroughly wash with soap and warm water. Wearing gloves is recommended.
Eye contact: Rinse with clean water for 15 minutes. Seek medical attention.
Inhalation: Use in in well ventilated areas and wear a NIOSH approved respirator.
Refer to 4008 SDS for additional information.
I can see you have 4030 as well. I can't read from other bottles. It is to small.
4030 Balancing Clear
Water-Based
Urethane Resin
VOC 67 g/L Reg.
Description
Appears milky in solution. Dries to a satin, clear finish.
Usage
1) Mix Additive
Mix with any Createx paint to create an acrylic-urethane paint.
Adding 4030 to Createx paints:
- Improves adhesion and durability (mar resistance)
- Improves leveling and edge retention
- Decreases surface tension allowing for heavier coats without cratering and improves leveling
- Reduces drying times
- Refer to candy2o tech data sheet for candy mix ratios.
- Scenix Mural & Theme Paint and AutoBorne Sealer do not require 4030 for improved performance.
2) Inter-coat Clear
4030 may be used as a clear. While not intended as a top-coat clear for automotive refinishing, it works well as an inter-coat for taping & masking over for graphic applications.
When fully cured, 4030 is a water-resistant clear that is suitable for prolonged exposure to exterior conditions.
Application
When applied as a clear, 4030 is best thinned ~ 5% with 4011 Reducer and applied in medium coats.
Apply 2 – 3 coats with a 50/50 overlapping pattern for pin-hole free coverage.
- Airbrush – 0.5mm ~ 25 - 30 psi
- Spray-gun – 1.2mm – 1.3mm ~ 18 – 22 psi inlet
Estimated drying and curing times are set at 70⁰ F (21⁰ C) and 50% or less Relative Humidity. Allow for extended drying times in colder or humid conditions. Mixing 4030 with paint assists in decreasing drying times.
When used as a clear, re-coat times are approximately 10 -15 minutes. After the last coat is applied, time to tape & handle is approximately 30 minutes.
Time to top-coating with a final clear should be 60 minutes at a minimum. Full cure is approximately 24 hours after drying.
Scuffing is not required prior to top-coating with Createx paint or clear.
4030 compared to UVLS Clears / 4050 UVLS Gloss Clear
4030 is a urethane resin that is softer compared to UVLS Clears, which are an acrylic – aliphatic polyurethane clear. 4030 works best as a mix-additive for adding to Createx paints for improved performance when painting hard surfaces. UVLS Clears are a higher solids clear compared to 4030 and do not spray as well when mixed with Createx paints such as Wicked Colors, Illustration Colors and Createx Airbrush Colors.
For candy2o, 4030 is the original carrier-medium for mixing with the concentrated candy2o dyes. 4030 still works well with candy2o for airbrush application, however for spray-gun application and when applying candy2o as a mid-coat over a metallic base, 4050 UVLS Gloss Clear is a better carrier-medium. When mixed with 4050, candy2o sprays more evenly with quicker coverage compared to mixing candy2o with 4030. candy2o mixed with 4050 also have improved adhesion and mar resistance compared to mixing with 4030.
UVLS Clears also work better as an inter-coat clear compared to 4030, however both work well as an inter-coat clear.
UVLS Clears dry quicker cure to a harder coating, which makes them more suitable for application with a spray-gun and for hard-surfaces and automotive application.
Pot-Life & Storage
4030 does not have a pot-life after mixing with reducer, nor do Createx paints when mixed with 4030.
4030 promotes drying and curing, only add 4030 to colors intended to be used within 3 – 4 weeks, and always keep bottles capped airtight.
4030 thinned with 4011 Reducer, or other Createx reducer, is best applied within a 12-hour period for best spray consistency, flow and leveling. Every time reduced 4030 is introduced to fresh air, some curing occurs at the surface level introduced to air, which promotes curing and will eventually increase viscosity and affect spray performance.
Keep 4030 capped air-tight when not pouring from the bottle. Store away from direct light in a cool, dark environment such as a paint cabinet or box in a closet.
Cleaning from Airbrush or Spray-Gun
4030 and colors mixed with 4030 are best rinsed from the airbrush or spray-gun with 5618 Airbrush Cleaner or 4011 Reducer. Use 4008 Restorer as a rinse for final clean to remove dried paint from metallic parts.
Cleaning 4030 Balancing Clear after Curing
4030 should only be cleaned thoroughly dried. Use a solvent-based degreaser or odorless mineral spirits to clean.
Often, a dry, tack-free wipe is adequate to clean 4030.
Warranty
This product will perform as claimed if directions are followed. Warranty is limited to replacement or refund value of product. No other warranty is expressed or implied.
Health & Safety
Use in a well-ventilated area. Avoid contact with eyes. Wash hands thoroughly with soap and warm water after use. Do not ingest. When spraying or sanding, use a properly-fitting NIOSH approved respirator per the manufacturer’s instructions.
Eye contact: Rinse with clean water for 15 minutes. Seek medical attention.
Inhalation: Use in in well ventilated areas and wear a NIOSH approved respirator.
Refer to 4030 SDS for additional information.
