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Discussion in 'Airbrush Paints' started by V-Twin, Nov 3, 2018.


  1. V-Twin

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    Probably a daft question, but I gotta ask....

    Can this Candy 2O (or is it H2O) be used to paint fine art on Acrylic Paper, Water Colour Paper
    or Gesso'd Stretched Canvas, including others like Foam board or Clay board or is it
    primarily for Metal substrates, thus automotive use only?

    If it can, then next question is, does it work like any other paints, well, Com-Art is the only
    stuff I have used a lot of, and a little Black and White standard Createx stuff, ie: mix with
    home made thinners or water to dilute, or does it require specialist mixing liquids like
    Createx does (4012, 4030 etc etc).

    And does it erase easily?
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    Use it on whatever you want.
    It's kind of a pain to mix.
    Goes with 4012 and 4030 but there's a specific order and some sitting time required to keep it from seeding.

    I don't think it will erase unless be mixed w 4004 and the the colors will bleed....
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    It’s just another paint basically Mate. Candy gets the name from having an appearance like boiled sweets. The idea is that they’re highly transparent, so can be used to tint or colour or be used by themselves. The Candy part is a Dye rather than solid pigment, so they are mixed with a carrier which in Createx’s case is usually the 4030 Intercoat clear and provides the resin base for the Candy colour. Gerald Mendez and our own MacD use them mixed with Trans Base rather than 4030, basically does the same thing but seems to be more suited to painting finer detail with the Candies. I’ve used both and don’t really notice the difference, but that says more about my experience and skill than anything else lol. I can’t say wether or not they would erase as I just don’t know, but I don’t imagine it’s easy. There’s lots of information on the created site https://autoaircolors.com/custom-candy-colors/candy2o.html. The videos and tech sheets might be of interest.
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    If used for illustration I'd imagine you'd just mix with the 4004 and skip the 4030
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    @musicmacd has used candies frequently in his paintings.
    I’m pretty sure he uses Createx Illustration transparent base and 4012 reducer.
    I don’t think it erases like the ‘normal’ paint

    And it’s candy2o :)
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    The erasability would also depend on what and how much of the Createx additives you would use.
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    It erases well on the Blair paper as long as I don’t add the 4030. I’ve had no problem using the trans base, Gerald Mendez told me he uses it that way and he’s the boss!!
    I sometimes add the 2.0 to the illustration white, adds another dimension to their uses
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    I use the candy to tint a color and I will sometimes use it straight out the bottle with no additives , So far a couple of piece I have done doing this are holding up well out in the weather.
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    Good to know, the only part I find is that it’s tacky until Dry, which is not good for erasing
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    But once it is dried it erases very easily and scratching is not an issue either.
    But when adding like the Candy Purple to Brown it gives it a subtle shift to a darker brown unlike when using Transparent or opaques .
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    Its been a good candy when ive used it.
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    I just finished the first video of a series aimed at airbrushing with Candy2o that might answer some of your questions. I don't touch on erasing in part 1, but it will be covered in part 2... spoiler alert, it erases easily.

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    Excellent video Wicked. Great content and some very useful information. Looking forward to part 2.


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    @wickedartstudio , thank you very much for that. I think that has answered a lot of my questions and given me food for thought.
    Most of all, you have shown me how this stuff should be used. I take it that it can be used over any manufacturers paint not just Createx's?
    I only use Com-Art at present with a little dabble in FW Inks.

    Really appreciate your input on this. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::) again, many many thanks.
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    I'm glad you found it helpful. I've only used the Candy2o with other Createx products. Having said that, there should be no issue with Com-Art of FW Inks in theory. Even if the two products you mentioned weren't water-based, I still don't see any issues. Candy2o is just a dye. I would advise testing on something other than your artwork first just to be certain though.
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    I’ve sprayed it over Solvent paints with no issue Neil, I don’t think there would be any problems going over any other type of paint either.


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    Thanks Gents, much appreciate your knowledge and input.
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    I am a full time fine art airbrush artist, who paints daily on the substrates you mentioned. And recently added some of the Candy2o paints to my arsenal. I've had no problems so far, but I've also not been able to see truly how lightfast, and long they'll hold up, or if they'll start leaching over time.
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    I just had a total nightmare with Candy2o... Thought I'd share it here in case it saves anyone some pain.

    I created some airbrushed art on a guitar using Createx Illustration Black and White mixed with about 25% 4030 clear base and reduced 10% with 4012.

    Gave it a coat of Emerald Green Candy2o - which ended up being darker than I wanted. No fault of the candy here - just my inexperience of how deep the colour goes down.

    However when I tried to spray over it with more CI white it bled through horribly, and even ended up with little spots where the paint totally failed causing blotchy islands all over the artwork. The more I tried to cover it up, the worse it got.

    I now understand that you need to seal Candy2o with 4040 bleed checker if you want to subsequently spray over the top of it, I also understand the older method was to use 4004 as a sealing coat.

    In my case I ended up sanding the Candy2o completely off and will continue using transparent colours instead of candy to achieve the effects I need.

    This was frustrating because I'd seen loads of YouTube videos of people doing monochrome artwork and colouring it with candys, then adding more opaque colour (highlights) and adding more candies. None of them had to apply an intermediate sealer to stop the candy bleeding. Could be that different brands behave differently of course.

    Anyway, YMMV but I'd recommend testing your choice of candy on some scrap before you ruin the final artwork. (Yes I should have tested it first).

    HTH
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    Sorry for your misfortune, but I have also noticed this with the Candy2O paint, unless I have given it at least a day to dry.
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