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Createx could sell a ton of these

Discussion in 'Color the World!' started by Robbyrockett2, Sep 16, 2018 at 12:08 AM.


  1. Robbyrockett2

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    from the feedback of so many people here I think maybe createx should look into one of these that could give a mix. could really give a good starting point for people that have trouble.
    http://www.matthewspaint.com/Fabricators-Distributors/Quick-Tips/MeasureColor-Mobile.aspx
    Or any other paint company for that matter, I know behr and valspar have similar apps, but they rely on your phones camera instead of a device im assuming is far more accurate.

    Gotta love mathews
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    But....but....taking 15 tries to match your colour is half the fun right? Lol.

    As many people know, my colour matching is more "yeah...that'll do", than accurate lol. But I know that actual real artists like to be precise, so can see how it would be popular. I kinda enjoy the challenge of finding the right(ish lol) mix, but then I'm just a 'wing it' type of person.
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    Honestly no matter how accurate their system is, it would still only get you close anyhow......at least w createx, since the bottles colors/person measuring the ratios aren't exactly perfectly consistent.
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    those guys wanna almost 300 bucks per year damn -.-

    for example for pantones:
    https://www.pantone.com/products/graphics/capsure-formula-guide-bundle
    got also cheaper options:
    https://www.pantone.com/color-control-tools
    but it's yours to keep...

    Anybody know how much costs colorimeter for cars?
    nvm found a link, they also have one for meat and vegetables...
    https://www.pce-instruments.com/eng...ents/test-meters/colorimeter-kat_159195_1.htm


    Spectrophotometers:
    quote:
    Spectrophotometers are the most precise, accurate and sophisticated color measurement instruments available for color quality control and color formulation. Spectrophotometers perform full spectrum color measurement. They measure the spectral reflectance or transmittance of an object across the full spectrum of visible wavelengths, from 400mm to 700mm. The instruments’ greater specificity makes them the instrument of choice for color formulation, specification of standards and tolerances, inter-plant color communication and quality control of color.

    if anybody interested more in this topic link:
    https://sensing.konicaminolta.us/blog/colorimeters-vs-spectrophotometers-vs-in-line/


    back on topic, if createx would put out something for 100 bucks i would buy it lol
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    They do it that way partly because those meters go off. Since it's tied to the company they have a vested interest in keeping it accurate.
    $300 only has to save like 4 hours labor to pay for itself.
    But yeah createx one would not have that issue, if the meter is off so what, so is every other bottle.
    For the createx market
    It could be a good thing if done more like you're saying .
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    My friend paints trucks and uses a device similar to that to get the correct colour they need. Their device actually talks to the colour mixing machine and does it for you. A very expensive but great piece of kit apparently.

    Lee
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    I guess you don't have issues if you wanna match old from sun damaged color with new one which you mix for some repair stuff on car,truck....
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    I was in the printing trade for over 30 years and when I retired I still have most of these in my kit.
    The main color measure was used with a densitometer. Printing ink is measured by thickness which like airbrush paint, the thicker you lay it on, the darker the color. I have what is called a color viewer, (for a simple name) that will read a color and using filters tell you the density of certain colors in it to make up that specific color. It also read trap (how well one color lays over another), which will also affect color.
    These devices are great when used under controlled conditions. The Pantone book needed to be discarded after a one year period and bought new due to the fading and age. All printing ink had to follow guidelines and be consistent from one batch to the next. It did not matter if the batches were 5 years apart, they were the same. Airbrush paint is all over the place. These devices need a constant to work properly.
    I also have an electronic loop that reads and magnifies utilizing light refraction for viewing.
    All these instruments needed to be calibrated all the time to allow constant and exact readings. Even the papers used were produced under a constant regarding color and brightness.
    These you mentioned are great, but a little over kill for something like airbrushing. Airbrush paint is not consistent enough.
    To this date, have not found any reason to use my meters for airbrushing, and I have thought about it....
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    I just thought something like this could put people in the right neighborhood who struggle and get brown when aiming for a greenish color.
    I totally agree createx is all over the place. I haven't bought enough others to know but I imagine they are not real consistent either.
    Cars are a bit different, as the paints are pretty on , but the meter just has to get close...it's gonna get blended no matter what with a repair. Closer you are, the less blending needed.
    Where the meter saves a little time is mainly in cross checking paint codes....which isn't always straightforward or even possible.

    I have no idea how well this one works.... I put up more for the concept. Seems like a lot of people want something like it...idk
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