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Forget E'tac EFX/Marissa paints...

Discussion in 'Airbrush Paints' started by AndreZA, Jun 26, 2016.


  1. AndreZA

    AndreZA Elite Member! Elite Member! Very Likeable!

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    ...in your airbrush cup because nothing will happen.

    I did not notice last night I cleaned everywhere except the airbrush. This afternoon, about 18 hours later, when it was paint time again, I saw the gun still had a bit of paint in the bottom of the gun. Out of interest I pressed the trigger and it sprayed. I did not add more water or anything. I just continued where I stopped the night before.

    To clean was the same as if I just used fresh paint. A 1 minute spray and back flush exercise and the gun was clean.

    Thanks E'tac.
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    this is just why I only use the EFX and MFX and n stick a note to my airbrush if I use the PS/ AG2050 mix for a custom project , the AG 2050 will dry and clog up your airbrush but nothing a little alcohol 70% will solve :)
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    Oooooh, very nice!! Good to know - thanks for experiementing for the team!! :)
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    Your thread title is very leading..
    I thought you were going to recommend a new paint brand! That is nice to know about etac.
    Can't say the same about wicked. I completely take apart my guns and clean/lube after every use. Except that one time...
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    ad fez kind of a big deal = Admington

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    as carlo said to me.... for wicked... you need an exorcism to clean from your brush
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    yeah it's the opposite with Createx Illustration :( Let those dry and it's in there for good. You can get the guns working again and spraying as they should but you'll hear a little click in the air flow or slight bubbling in cup.. I have a destroyed color cup thanks to the hard setting of illustration paints.:sour:
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    I've also decided to switch to E'TAC paints. What do you people use to clean your airbrush after E'TAC?
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    good old plain water and a alcohol based window cleaner or 70% alcohol straight up if I used the AG 2050 .
    I flush the remaining paint out with water followed by a alcohol based window cleaner or plain alcohol and rinse the cleaner out with water . for the PS and AG2050 I recommend the use of 70% alcohol to make sure the brush is really clean
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    I only use EFX/Marissa colours so it is just water for colour changes and for deep cleaning, a diluted local all purpose eco friendly cleaner.
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    I'm sold! I see if I can get Etac paints here in Calgary.
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    I started with createx illustration but I think it delayed my progress and dampened my enthusiasm, I spent way to much time trying to figure out the reduction/pressure /cleaning/clogging / cleaning headace and then throw in the newbie factor and it had me tearing my hair out thinking I was never going to 'get it'
    thought I'd give Etac a go and wow, what a difference !! by using and learning with the Etac its also helped with my CI experience and I'm now starting to use the CI a bit more.
    for any newb id definitely recommend the Etac / com-art route rather than jump in the deep end with the CI...
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    nothing beats e'tac's performance not to mention its innocuous properties.
    I like underpaint/paint and detail with e'tac and use IC or Liquitex where I need extra strength. IC has really beautiful and strong colors.
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    This is happening to me now. It's nice to hear that theres a difference. I've actually managed to ruin one set of needle/nozzles (micron) by doing way too much cleaning and fiddling with the airbrush, now it does not spray properly anymore. The nozzle is probably streched (Bell shape) because I've been fighting freeflow problems, being angry at the same time and high on Restorer.
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    I can't see how "too much cleaning" could cause damage unless you are ramming the needle in too hard.

    I've dried Wicked in the tool and had no problem with Iwata AB cleaner getting it out. All too often I forget and leave paint in the tool over night. If I have any trouble with it, I'll use Xylene or Acetone and a fine brush on the nozzle and let it soak a couple hours first.
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    I can see where threads get worn with excessive use, but that takes a lot of "excess". I won't worry about it. More likely, I get worn out from doing it.:eek:
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    I can relate to that. I had no idea what kind of paint to buy when I first started and ended up with four different brands (most of them unsuitable) and that turned into a real nightmare. It was months before someone said " just work with one brand" 'till you master that.

    All you newbies out there, do yourself a great favor and work with only one brand, preferably, one of the ones you see most talked about here. Part of the problem is that most people get started by looking at You Tube videos where the paint problem is almost never mentioned. Also take note that your lower cost guns with larger needles will handle lower quality paints better because the tolerances are not as tight, But then, if and when you upgrade to a finer brush, you suddenly find it hardly works at all and you blame he tool. NO, its the paint.

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    @mr.magoo. You were provided with excellent advice from the beginning but chose to ignore it and carry on your merry way despite the advice of several respected members bending over backwards trying to help you. The reason that so many sign up and disappear is more likely because they thought it would be easy and when they realize that there is a big learning curve they give up.
    I find your comment about this forum not doing enough to help newbies very disrespectful to all the members including myself, that went out of their way to help you.
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    I am with you Jack , there is more than enough excellent info for those who want to start or have just bought their first airbrush and the remark about buying the paint that is most talked about is down right stupid as most starters will do just hat and buy the most promoted and talked about but also hard to handle paint : createx !
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    Simple answer is that the info is there, whether you choose to take the time to read it or even take the advice on board is entirely up to you.
    As Ron & jackie have said your comments are disrespectful to this forum and the members who have took the time to explain and type up the advice on here.
    If you dont like what your being told then you dont have to be here, but dont bitch about the lack of advice and resources that are available because your either to lazy or too stupid to to find and apply them.
    Rant over


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