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Foxy Studio K33 0.18mm needle vs Standard IWATA 0.18mm

Discussion in 'Airbrushes' started by redcore, Jun 14, 2017.


  1. palk

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    Well, they may be inclusions the chinese loupe I am using is not the clearest lollollol
    moral of todays story
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    You're right! I have all the needles just as I prefer.

    Sometimes needles should be either longer or shorter compared to stock ones. For microns, Iwata's should be a bit longer out off the nozzle and Olympos is shorter and with changed taper. It's even better not to use Olympos needles, they're too soft. Literally a touch of the surface and you'll have another needle repair:)
    Usually, I do the tapers a bit longer for the reason of achieving more precise freehand work.


    The price stops me from buying one:) My ABing does not bring to me any money yet and I'm not that rich yet to buy single needle for 83;)
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    I am not an experienced AB'er But I am using it to paint and sell fishing lures for a living, I hope... I have only just received my first boxes of packaging So I am balancing my budget where I think I can get the best results . So time will tell

    There is no doubt that you can polish a needle a lot of ways at its most basic a dremel with a mop and car polish and away you go but profile changing is a little more challenging and require some machinery at minimum a bench grinder and a tool cutting attachment and some fine wheels and wheel dresser
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    For the work you do, I think Eclipse CS would be just great. This tool will serve you well for a long time. Only improvements can be done for it are polished needle and soft spring.

    Now I do sanding and polishing manually, though from the start did that using Dremel. Funny thing is that hand treatment is more precise.

    I think, I'll try those needles from Foxy, but when I'll have incomes from custom painting. I like trying new things, especially if they should improve the characteristics of tool.
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    It has been recommended to me by a few times. I don't know if I am a tight wad or just contrary. But the pricing I have received, the GSI is around 30% cheaper than a HP-CS Spray Gunner website has some good prices for the GSI and they are a little cheaper off amazon from the same place, go figure.
    I am considering the trigger AB's because I will be painting up to 4 hours a day. There is a lot of shading and blending with a little detail and masking. I have uploaded a Pic of some of my lures.
    I really want the paint work to define my product.
    In a year or so I hope to be in a position to consider and evaluate the best AB,s for the tasks I require including the K33
    I do not have to clear coat as this is being done via an automated UV curing dip coating process (when I finish programming the Arduino board)
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    I have polished normal iwata needle 0.18 just with a high gloss paste and dremel tool - but with the felt disc (or whatever its called) only! Absolutely no sand paper! It was super easy and looked EXACTLY smooth and polished as k33. I know it because i had it under microscope. And it works just GREAT. People say that you have to keep exactly this angle and that angle because its been manufactured with incredible precision etc...but sometimes people think too much.
    So dont be afraid. Just get the finest polishing paste and dremel tool with felt disc only.


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    You are spot on the only risk you faced was rounding off the very point,,,, solution don't push too hard the amount of material removed is tiny with no chance of profile change unless you are at it for 2 hours
    One area that tends not to get mentioned is where the paint seal contact the needle you can feel the difference when you give it some attention
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    Yep, just be gentle and focus.


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    where did you get the needle cap from ? I want to do this but $50 for the micron needle cap makes me hesitate.
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    Perfect at that price I'll order a couple to experiment with! Thanks @JackEb .
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    No worries, When @AndreZA first posted that thread i bought half a dozen for the same reason as you...... didnt want to mess up a micron cap :) it can be fiddly (Dremel comes in handy) but it does the job
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    I like my polished needles done with diamond paste have not bought a nozzle or needle in over 5 years
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