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Discussion in 'Airbrushes' started by Vladimir, Dec 12, 2018.


  1. crewchief227

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    Hey if it's for the cause maybe. I also have some air caps from a Micron. One however would just be for shape experimentation, as it had a needle that got damaged tear a slit in the hole, and I have another one where the hole is just a hair too big. Those I'll just send for the heck of it if you want them. :thumbsup:
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    The family of the guy who made the Conograph still run an airbrush supply business. They’re my local place that I buy spares and Createx products. Great people and they have a couple of the old brushes on display. They’re Airbrushes.com


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  3. Vladimir

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    Thanx!

    There's not much that can be done to the micron air cap. What I've shown, that's almost all, I think experimentation wouldn't bring anything new. Though, I work on smth else, but the shape of the air cap remains almost identical.
    For making different shape I need another design of the cap and this design is not manufactured.
    If I have some equipment, I'll make that cap. I have some design in my mind, just need to experiment.

    If that one with too big hole is 0,18mm you could screw it on 0,23mm. Maybe you'll find it great.

    Anyway, thank you! Good gesture from you, much appreciated:thumbsup:


    I think they don't manufacture ABs for the reason these days manufacturing hand made tools wouldn't bring reasonable money. China and CNCs and other, you know:)
    Looking at the Conopois products I know how much effort one need to make for having that tool done. Tech masterpieces!:thumbsup:
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  4. Robbyrockett2

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    ;)....
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    What do you mean?
    I meant to original one only;) And only the cap, no talking about the head:)
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    Me too. I'm working on something for the aircap. Though right now I'm just using Chinese parts to experiment with.

    Later on I might be interested in the one with the torn hole .
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    I've got Chinese one ready;) But not plated yet, so don't want to show yellow result. Wanna show it chrome shiny.
    Besides, will do similar to Japanese head. And the second "besides" I have some thoughts more on improving the head. One thought - Chinese and some Japanese models pushed me to that (I think, you've come to that idea also;)), another one - my original thought.

    I wonder who will be the first to show the result:)
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    You will.
    What I'm working on is to do with the aircap, and shows some promise to improve performance. Not that there's a lot of room to improve, but I think I might get that last tiny bit squeezed out of it.
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    Are you making new cap or just squeezing from Chinese cap?
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    Well, right now i have no ability to do non standard threads that size so I'm modding existing caps.
    If it works out well, they'll probably be made from scratch
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    I think what you would do, would not say the whole truth unless being done combined with Japanese nozzle. Chinese thick walled nozzles spoil the performance in the end.
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    Baby steps, but yeah true.
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    well boys you know who wants to test all improvements you can come up with and Robby you know I would be more than interested in the one part I mentioned ;)
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    Polishing the nozzle interior I feel like is a losing battle.
    Whether you can manage an improvement on it ...I have no idea but what i do know is the polish wouldn't last long In a stainless nozzle.
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    Wouldn't call it baby's, but not screwing up smth expensive;)

    I know what I'm saying. For I've spoiled some:)
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    Some of this stuff I may just make one of for someone that wants it.
    Whether the business is working out or not I still just like to have someone using a design I did..... We'll see how it unfolds.
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    so far I am impressed with the improvements you, Vladimir and Dave have come up with , the O ring seal is just what the doctor ordered for those who long for that good old rubber seal feel but love the solvent proof seals , the rocket balm lubes a 14 year old hard seal like it is new and even if I havent had the chance to test the SN needle to the max my first impressions are real good and there is one thing that has been on my wish list for a long time : a needle guide that has less friction when you move it :) the rest will be a bonus if I can afford it that is :D
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  18. Vladimir

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    Here comes the Badddja:)

    I did my best to the air cap.

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    Developed new sealing nut for new soft O-rings. Works great.
    Looks not the same as stock one for some reasons, thought it could be manufactured having exactly the same shape.
    One reason is I don't like stock nuts, as it's not possible to see what's been dialed, one can only trust the feel of the needle movement. It's for the reason stock nut has 3 "rays" design. Mine has only one and its much better to see what I dial each time. It's especially important for soft seal where your needle is sealed at the moment the O-ring just touches the AB body inside, what's not possible to do with the stock look, you need to see at what position O-ring touches the body for further tightening/loosing the seal. Generally, it's all about better control of the seal.
    Another thing is tightening the nut from outside the body (from the window) works not for better centering the nut inside the body, that affects the nozzle centering also.
    This one gives better control of paint leak, if one would appear.

    The thing looks like that installed in the tool.

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    Can't edit previous post, there's one thing to correct. Should be the needle centering inside the nozzle.
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