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iwata hp-cs OR Badger Renegade Krome

Discussion in 'Airbrushes' started by Pete lloyd, Mar 7, 2019.


  1. Pete lloyd

    Pete lloyd Young Tutorling

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    Hello guys and girls,

    Just forming a list of bit's that i need to pick up and i cannot decide between iwata hp-cs OR Badger Renegade Krome ?

    I have limited funds but they both cost the same almost here in the UK. I did stumble across the neo for iwata but wasn't sure on it ?!

    I want a brush that can do details plus spray an okay surface area. I have quite a bit of experience in painting and drawing so feel although ill be new to airbrushing i will transfer some knowledge and skills across so i will not be at a loss completely.

    Feel free to recommend others that i may not know about or any pros and cons. I appreciate your advice and help.

    Much rather listen to people on here than just reviews online.


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    Pete Lloyd
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    J000seph Detail Decepticon! Very Likeable!

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    I’ve never used a Krome but I used to own its cousin, the Renegade Velocity, which is a cool looking brush. It was capable of very fine lines. I’ve heard good things about the Krome. My first brush, an Eclipse HP-CS, is an excellent brush that I love and still use frequently. A couple years ago I decided that I preferred Japanese and sold all of my Badgers. To each their own. I just don’t like the feel of the Badger triggers. The Eclipse can do details and cover large areas. If you do a search on this forum there are plenty of threads discussing this same question. You can get one now and get the other later. I bought a few used brushes to text out knowing I could resell them later if I wanted to.
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    Thank you,


    From what i have read the iwata seems to be the favorite but just after opinions and words of advise! I just don't want to spend money and wish i got a different one !


    Pete
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    I don’t have experience with the Badger, so I can’t really advise you there. My reasons for choosing the HP-CS, was first and foremost due to the recommendation from this very forum and secondly due to the ease and availability of spare parts. Again, that’s not to say the Badger support network isn’t good, from all accounts they’re customer service is great. But I have the main U.K. importer of Iwata only 40 mins drive away, so I can get parts the same day if needs be.
    All of that probably doesn’t help a lot. But you never know what info might tip the balance.


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    Pete lloyd Young Tutorling

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    I am swaying towards the iwata but every bit of information helps! They just seem the go to brand. Everyone seems to rate them
    Thanks for your reply!
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    I have had both, and still have the Eclipse. I still have quite a few Badgers, but use the Eclipse more often, for sure.
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    Thanks for your reply!
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    I have always had a 'rule' when buying a tool, I have to be able to get spares / accessories readily and rapidly.
    The airbrushes were no different. I chose Iwata because here in Australia you can find Iwata pretty much everywhere whereas most of the other 'top' brands take a bit of hunting.

    You mentioned the Iwata Neo in your original post, just be aware that it is made FOR Iwata, not BY Iwata. It would be my suggestion for a newbie just starting out instead of a generic brush.

    The Eclipse CS is in many airbrush artist arsenals for good reason. Its a great workhorse, larger tip size means its not quite the Diva thats some of the Microns can be. With time and practise you can pull some very good detail from the brush.

    Detail is as much about practise and experience as its is about the tool. We could put a Micron in the hands of a total newbie and they'd struggle to get a line finer than 2mm, once you've had some time with it you will be pulling lines thinner than a hair. It comes down to speed and confidence. Yes the right tool will help but it wont produce great results in inexperienced hands.

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