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Discussion in 'Introductions!' started by [amw], Aug 1, 2018.


  1. [amw]

    [amw] Double Actioner

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    Hello!

    I've been gathering advice from this forum for a good while and thought it might only be polite to say hello.

    A little while ago I got a rather nasty cheapo airbrush from screwfix (like this ) to 'have a go'. I was quite impressed that it did anything at all :) Given it costs 25 quid or so it's not so bad.

    What I then did was buy a gravity-feed Royalmax from ebay. A less good idea - it didn't work well, leaked and required a lot of fiddling to get it to do anything. It showed just enough of a glimmer of possibility to convince me that gravity-feed might be the way to go, but in every other way was a disaster.

    I then had a stroke of luck and stumbled across an aincient Iwata HP-C on ebay for not much money. Suffice to say it was a bit crusty and looked like it hadn't been used for decades. Some careful cleaning and lubrication later, plus butchering a hose to fit onto its hose-barb, it worked! Suffice to say that even a dog-old Iwata is better than a Royalmax... it has good atomisation! it has a round pattern! and it doesn't leak!!!

    Anyway, I now have an airbrush that works like an airbrush is supposed to, sadly my skills are still non-existant, but that will come if I manage to stick with it (at least a bit!).
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    Welcome to the forum from China! Don’t worry, practice comes first, skills will follow later.
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    Mr.Micron Royal pain in the air hose Admin

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    Welcome home and yes sometime the cheap airbrushes work great and people love them other times they don't But that old Iwata will last you a long time. Now that you have a good airbrush practice should go smoother so practice those dots , dagger strokes and fades and before long you will be painting skulls or flowers which every you like best :D
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    Welcome! You made the right choice with the Iwata available for a good price, congratulations. Hope you enjoy your time here.
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    jord001 Air-Valve Autobot!

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    Welcome to the forum, Just seen your thread about spectra-tex so I've added a bit of info there. You might want to get yourself a quick disconnect for the HP-C it will make things a little easier than using a hose on the barb fitting. Then you can use a standard 1/8th fitting hose. If you search for inline mac valves you should find which is best.

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    JackEb The Dragon Hunter Staff Member Admin

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    Welcome from Australia,
    Nice find with the Eclipse, a great all round workhorse of a brush. WHEN you decide you need parts for it (needle/nozzle if you drop it) then make sure you get the right parts. I'm not 100% certain if they've changed the model slightly over the years but I ordered parts for my HP-B+ and received parts for a HP-B (earier model) and they didnt fit. Thankfully it was a supplier error and parts were marked wrong and I had no issue changing them over.

    Just something to keep in the back of your head for future purchases.

    Yes, I agree with Jordo, switch that barb fitting out
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    markjthomson AKA QuickDraw and very happy #nobrushleftbehind Staff Member Mod

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    basepaint Air-Valve Autobot! Very Likeable!

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    Welcome to Mitchs madhouse, Glad you decided to pop In and do an introduction as you see it helps us help you in your quest a lot faster then lurking in the shadows!:thumbsup::thumbsup:
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    Thanks all for your great welcome.

    For those who might be interested I found a photo of the old HP-C:

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    and the hacking I had to do to my host to get it to work:

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    When I got the brush the needle cap was stuck on. This wasn't a big problem, but (obviously) limits how close you can get and also doesn't work too well when using a fully open trigger. Anyway it was well and truly stuck on, eventually I got brave and *very carefully* used some pliers and a little heat to get it off. The cap now has a little brassing, but hey, it was cheap!
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    Malky Pencil Pushing Protagonist Very Likeable!

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    You need to get yourself one of these;

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    your current set up looks decidedly dodgy, an accident waiting to happen, you can find it here https://airbrushes.com/product_info.php?cPath=400_14_412_158&products_id=1181
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    No, I need to get myself part 15 from here, which is an air-valve body with a 1/8" connection rather than a hose barb; I can then connect things in a better way.

    As an aside, I know that hose looks bad, but at the pressures I am using it at (10 - 30 psi) it isn't a problem, plus it is only connected my compressor with a tiny, low pressure, reserviour, so there is little potential for destruction.
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  13. Malky

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    So is the air valve you have stuck in that hose damaged or threaded, even if you get a new valve you still need the barb to be able to connect and disconnect from your brush, although most us have a quick release set with quick release barb on the brush.
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    [amw] Double Actioner

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    Nope. The air-valve in the picture has a hose-barb right on the bottom - an integral part! So I carefully screw the hose+valve and the brush together before use - like the opposite of quick disconnect :) So to fix this I have to buy a whole new air valve - one with a threaded connection! I did say my HP-C was quite old...
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    I see, the whole set up looks strange and cumbersome, I've never seen such an arrangement, I'm working with an HP-B which going by the box in your your picture is as old as yours is but the valve came attached to the brush with the 1/8th male thread, all I would have needed would have been the the barb with 1/8th female thread pictured above but I opted for a Harder & Steenbeck hose with integrated micro air control instead, this is how it all looks;

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    I don't use the pistol grip filter anymore, it causes problems and if I have moisture I can see it in the hose.
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