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  1. Ronald art

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    I have a question for you guys and galls : when I use photoshop to print a ref out the colors are more or less spot on with the photo on my screen but if I convert the ref to a PDF so I can use acrobat reader to print it to the size I want (mainly A3) the print out is darker than the photo on the screen and I need to adjust the brightness in photoshop ( make the photo lighter) before I can print it in reader but that is always a gamble :( when the ref is black and white I need to do the same
    the question is can I change the settings in photoshop so reader wont print it darker as it actually is ?
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    Document profiles Define the specific RGB or CMYK color space of a document. By assigning, or tagging, a document with a profile, the application provides a definition of actual color appearances in the document. For example, R=127, G=12, B=107 is just a set of numbers that different devices will display differently. But when tagged with the Adobe RGB color space, these numbers specify an actual color or wavelength of light–in this case, a specific color of purple. When color management is on, Adobe applications automatically assign new documents a profile based on Working Space options in the Color Settings dialog box. Documents without assigned profiles are known as untagged and contain only raw color numbers. When working with untagged documents, Adobe applications use the current working space profile to display and edit colors.

    Link about this here:
    https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/working-with-color-profiles.html

    But there is also an option which wouldn't destroy your work and it would give you a lot of options for customizing and going back to ''original''




    So let me try to explain this easy way... You made yourself or got a nice picture and you satisfied with how it looks in your photoshop, but you know you need it to be darker. You change that picture with adjustment layers and do your magic in acrobat reader. And when you done, you just turn those adjustment layers to not visible and your picture looks back like it was before you made it darker for acrobat reader.

    I was just wondering, why you print from acrobat reader instead of photoshop?

    Fun fact:
    One more little thing. What you see on screen is different then what printer will output. If you would like to be very close you would need something like that:
    https://xritephoto.com/i1studio


    edit: Using ICC Profiles in Adobe Photoshop CS5
    http://www.peachpit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1725271

    video about Printing in Photoshop and ICC:
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    I use acrobat reader when I want a ref that is bigger than A4 reader will cut it down in as many pages I need and does it perfect so I only need to trim off the edges and stick them together lol poor mans A3 or A2 solution
    but let me get this right if I change the setting to CMYK ( what the printer uses) the print would be close to the true color ?
    I know I am old and slow when it comes to PC programs ;)
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    If I would be on your place I would use Adjustment layer for levels and it would be done in a few seconds. Unless you need to be very precise. Maybe adjustment layer for brightness/contrast or curves.
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    I will play with photoshop and try out your tips and tricks I dont need 100% right colors but I do need to be able to see the colors and the shapes and those things get lost ( to me) when a print gets darker than the photo I see on my screen as that is where I look first to decide if I can work with what I see on my screen
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    If I am preparing document for printing I am doing my work in rgb until I can. Then I make a copy of that document and I convert that document to CMYK. In CMYK document i check under:
    View/Gamut warning

    If everything is ok, and if I need to correct few stuff. I desaturate the stuff which printer can't print with a brush and then it's ready for print. Bear in mind, if I print for my self stuff which are just for me, I just press print RGB document and I pray :)
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    the issue here is cmyk cant print all rgb colors, One sec gonna find something.
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    That's why I use gamut warning in photoshop to see what printer can't print and I desaturate those areas so printer is able to print.
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    here is a video where guy explains good for beginer about those areas
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    so RGB it is as even I can see the value / color difference in yellow and green in this example :) and now I understand what goes "wrong" in my mind LOL
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    Chers Husky you have been a big help to me !
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    Printer can't print those colors so you get darker picture. :)

    put this video on 7:50 and you will see.
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    No problem, glad to hear I helped you.
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    Why don't you size it in Photoshop to the size you want to print seeing that the colours are correct already.
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    Andre I used to do that with the old version of photoshop I had on my PC but with the new version I am using now I keep messing up it should be much easier but with my sight problem it is much harder to get it just right when I cut a big ref to A4 size pages even 1 mm smaller or bigger will cause a problem when I try to put them back together that is why the adobe reader option works better for me
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    you are using registration marks for your pages?
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    I dont think so but I am not sure what you mean by that ... yes I know I am not to bright when it comes to photoshop :(

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