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Discussion in 'Beginners help' started by Dimitris, Jan 1, 2020.
Can this silicone be painted?
I know it's a long shot but I had to ask...
Maybe with an adhesion promoter of some sort ? It could be an expensive experiment if the cover is expensive
I won't mind, it's for me anyway so if it doesn't work I'll probably wash it back to its original color. It's 25 euro so not big deal. I've seen some cases with camouflage-colors and really liked it!
Hope you're ok with all these fires over there Jackie
I think even with adhesion promoter it will be tricky... there is a reason they use silicon as a release agent...
I’m safe thanks Dimitris, the one close to me is pretty much extinguished. I feel for all those on our east coast though, many home and lives lost and it’s still not controlled
they make some sort of a base that gets added to paint to adhere it to silicone - it is used primarily in special effects and make up. Even with an adhesion promoter, any normal acrylic will be way to brittle to stick to silicone... I will poke around at some of the places I know i have seen it, and try to come back with a link. I never paid much attention before, because it wasn't something I was planning on doing...
Edit: Link added- https://www.smooth-on.com/product-line/psycho-paint/
It will depend on the type of silicone (tin or platinum cure) that the camera cover is made from -platinum cure will not cure on a tin cure base. Silicone is very, very difficult to paint successfully - when done as an afterthought.
Thanks @DaveG , much appreciated!
I was looking at this stuff called PROS AIDE for mixing with airbrush paint so I could paint my friends predator silicone bodysuit but at the time I had no money to get the stuff so haven't tried it but its what the cosplay and mask/sfx peeps use.
A note on this: If you want to spray pros-aide, get a bottle of Isododecane. You can find it from cosmetic ingredient suppliers like TKB Trading. It dissolves pros-aide a treat, so if your airbrush gets all gummy, it'll help. Pros-aide is an acrylic emulsion used as an adhesive for prosthetics, FX appliances, etc, and what's sold as the remover for it is a mix of isododecane to dissolve the pros-aide, and alcohol so you don't feel all greasy. They're a bit marked up though.
If your airbrush contains silicone parts (o-rings? seals?) don't soak in isododecane, because I've seen how it dissolves silicone resins and I imagine elastomers might swell in the stuff.
Most importantly don't let the stuff linger in your brush! Pros-aide is tenacious! If it can keep a wig and a lion nose stuck to my face for a whole day of convention attending, imagine what it will do in your airbrush!
Funny story that was told to me by a makeup artist/salesperson at Kryolan: He had a customer come in, who had coated himself in pros-aide and glitter (like a self inflicted tarring and feathering, but far more glamorous) and found himself unable to get the stuff off. He had tried everything, including scrubbing the glitter and glue off, but nothing except the correct solvent worked. It's that strong.
I have not seen any paint that adheres to silicone.
Anti-silicone bottles are available on the market. That solves the fish-eye problem.
But not the adhesion problem.
And if you do find a paint, maybe silicone baze.
You keep that far away from the place where you normally spray.
Oooh, you've allready scared me! Hahaha!
Sounds quite sticky if you mess with it and I recently had a problem with a sticky airbrush! No way I'm gonna mess with such stuff again.
@DaveG thanks for the info, whole new field about airbrush painting...quite useful though! Wonder what's the difference between silicone and platinum silicone
@jord001 took a look at their site, it is expensive, 40 euro for a bottle of 75ml...
If you look on ebay there are places that sell it cheaper. Mine only comes up for the uk and I can get a 100 ml bottle for £16 but i'm sure your local ebay will be better suited. There's something else they use afterwards as like a clearcoat called perma wet. Again, not used it and that stuff is expensive too.
I have a spare silicone predator hand that I have to practice on so I may order some and have a go. Can't remember where I got this info but this is what was typed.
" with pros aide i lay down a base colour of 50 / 50 acrylic paint and pros aide. then just airbrush or paint with f.w. inks diluted with iso alcohol, this bonds well, flexes well and isnt tacky "
Some other great info in the answers that you got and I will be writing it down in my notes so hopefully you will be able to get some stuff and have a go.
If you want to know more, read up on Pax paint, which is what this mix is called.
I also confused my solvents, it's not isododecane, it's isopropyl myristate. My apologies! On the upside, IPM is easy to come by.
Thanks @BijouPyramidette your info is very helpful.
Thank you, Lee, you're very kind
@BijouPyramidette , well said, it'll be useful for many people...