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Discussion in 'Airbrushes' started by Robbyrockett2, Nov 17, 2018.


  1. Ronald art

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    I am with Dave on this matter and to me the HP SB+ would be the next step after the eclipse
    I have the side feed eclipse the HP SB+ and the micron the eclipse is a good airbrush but the HP SB+ is a better airbrush when it comes to fine detail now the micron is a mighty fine airbrush but can be a real pain in the behind when it comes to paint pigments it just needs fine pigments or real thin paint
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    Can I ask what is pigment paint is Liquitex a pigment paint
    paint I own is golden High flow
    and createx Illustration both transparent paint
    I'm looking at adding some Holbein acrylic ink to my collection

    Can you thin Liquitex with badger thinners ?

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    all paints contain pigments as that is what makes the colors airbrush paint has fine pigments but some paints have finer pigments then other paints if a paint can be used in a micron comes down to recommended nozzle size for that paint
    I know createx illustration can be used with the 0.18 micron , I dont know about liquitex , Golden high flow or holbein as I never used those paints
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    Foxy use liquitex for there first project Ronald and she uses it 3:1 with a k33 needle with no problem
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    it will all come down to the right reduction if it will work for you Marissa knows her paint and how to reduce it so it will flow trough her micron if I remember it right she has made a vid to show how she reduces that liqutex paint that is actually not made for use in a airbrush and it does need a special reducer to make it ready for the airbrush
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    I use Golden High Flows in conjunction with etac paints. I made up my own reducer for both out of Golden Airbrush Medium, Golden Retarder, and distilled water. I use both a .18 CM-SBV2, and a .23 CM-C+V2 with no problems, even spraying white or black pigments. But, a lot of keeping a Micron going is technique & maintenance.
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    I'm enrolled in Marissa course and the three to one comes out of her micron (with the gold plated micron and k33)with no trouble she only reduces it with thinners for blending and skin. I am using a badger extreme with a extra fine needle and it's working well (OK) I have to pick the needle every five min's but hay so does every one else. I will be ordering the Iwata HP SB+ I think tomorrow as you suggested thank you so much
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    So as development continues I've confirmed two things.

    1. The material is inherently slick.
    It's an added bonus. This means that even without my finishing methods a self repair with a decent polish will still be effective at combatting tip dry.

    2. On these small sizes there will be one additional step to a repair.

    You'll need to mount it in a drill and sink the tip into a block of wood up to the end of the second angle. This works the sharp delicate point so that the .1mm at the tip is no longer as flexible.
    This makes the flexing happen at an even rate despite the two angles so you won't bend your tip.

    This could probably be done easily by hand as well.
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    Liquitex reduces just fine with plain old water. Idk if it will flow in a very fine nozzle but water has worked for me in .3s
    Probably some glycerin or polypropylene glycol (rv antifreeze) which is just another form of glycerin often used as a retarder would help tremendously though.
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    Liquitex flows beautifully in a 0.18 thinned only with water!!


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