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Takumi SBS Eclipse

Discussion in 'Airbrushes' started by EJ Hart, Aug 25, 2021.


  1. EJ Hart

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    Any reviews out on the SBS takumi eclipse?
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    I'll give you my take in a day or so...
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    Ok thanks.
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    I believe they have just been made available to the public, so I imagine there will be a lot coming through.


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    Yep. I also chose to purchase from a small business (Tag Team Hobbies - Thomas is a great guy), rather than purchasing from a big store to spread the support around. Mine is in the post, and is scheduled to be delivered by tomorrow.
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    Awesome! Nice move too Dave. I’m looking forward to seeing what you think of the brush.


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    OK, sorry for the delay, but the Takumi just arrived today.

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    I knew from the first moment I picked the brush up out of the box that it was a winner. I love, love, love the revision they made in shortening the body. It moves the hand further forward, and makes it feel like you can get right on your work piece for very fine detailed work. At least for me it does. I work with a lot of vintage brushes, particularly early American pieces - Wold, Paasche, and Thayer Chandler - even early Badger brushes, all share a very short distance from trigger to tip. The new Takumi is the first Japanese brush that allows for that same feel. It is still about 1/4" longer up front than the early American brushes, but that forward hand position (and balance) is really welcome, from me.

    I wasn't sure about the color cup revision... but, now that I have used it, I can tell I will be adding some more of the cups to my existing arsenal. I chose to ditch the large 7cc cup, and added the 2cc cup from a NEO. I will grab a couple more bases, and go with a 7cc, 2cc, and a Micro Ring from Harder & Steenbeck to top one off - so, I have the three options at the ready.

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    I did the trigger conversion using a Micron trigger a couple of years ago on one of my Eclipse HP-BS brushes, so have been familiar with the feel, and function. I much prefer it over the button top trigger on the Eclipse, so it is a welcome addition, for me.

    The original color cup style still fits the brush, as do all the Aztek and similar style cups for those that don't care for the new gravity feed style. One thing I did notice, and was kind of grateful about - with the shorter front end of the brush, depending on the angle you are working at, the bottom of the color cup on the old style can get very close to your work surface. I have in the past dragged a cup or two across my work, either scratching the work, or having the color cup pop out of the brush. The new style provides much more space under the cup...

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    Man, I want one of those cups for my CM-SBS. It looks like exactly what I've been looking for (a small capacity high-mounted side cup). Is anyone selling parts for these yet? Coast has the brush in their catalog, but their parts pages haven't been updated with the Takomi parts.

    Is it possible you could post a pic looking down into the cup? I'm curious as to the internal shape. Is the bottom conical like with the old SF cups, bowled like a gravity feed cup, or flat like an Aztek cup?

    Are the new trigger related guts cross-compatible with a vanilla Eclipse body? I.e. could one upgrade an HP-CS to use this trigger using off the shelf Takomi parts?

    I want soooooooo bad to trade up my CM-SBS to the new version, as the shorter front end distance is a really big deal for me. Unfortunately I'm not sure I could afford it. And this new version will probably effect the resale price of previous SBS Microns.
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    Thanks for letting us know Dave. It just looks wrong with that cup. It's just not how I know Iwata. The micro cup is a nice idea. I've got one of those rings for my H&S guns. Don't you think the tube of the cup is a bit long? It looks like they could about a 3rd of it.
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    Congratulations Dave, that‘s really a nice AB. I‘m still waiting here in Germany for them to be offered, but unfortunately the old world is still behind. I have to agree with the older cups touching the surface especially when it’s rounded like a Gastank. :thumbsup:
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    The cup "base" is quite shallow, with basically a cone shape below the threaded portion. Ignore the O-ring and arrow - I was simply explaining how I prefer to seal this sort of cup. The standard seal is at the root of the threads on the color cup top. Parts across the Takumi and other Eclipse models will remain the same, with the exception of the needle, which is shorter in length by necessity, but keeps the same taper up front.

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    With the reduced distance between trigger and tip, if the cup was tucked in closer to the brush, you would most likely keep hitting it with your finger - there is a bit of clearance room there to prevent one from popping the cup out accidentally with a finger... it is about the same as the old style cups as far as length.
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    Thanks! The conical bottom inside is exactly what I was hoping for. I'll definitely be getting one of those cups.
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    I’m getting very tempted by this Eclipse. I love my CS and can see nothing but positive development from this model.


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    Thanks Dave G for taking the time to write the review. I picked up the Takumi trigger from Merri Artist 2 weeks ago. I will pick up the base cup and use my Neo small color cup just as you did. Does the H/S small lid fit the Neo small color cup? I'm too clumsy and always like to use a lid.
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    On the examples I have here, the small H&S cup cap really doesn't fit the NEO cup. It is loose... you could use the H&S cup and cap, though. As the H&S seal is in the base of the brush, you would need to use the O-ring from the Iwata 7cc cup you would be removing.
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    How well does that H&S micro cup fit the Iwata cup base? I was looking over the cup options, and if H&S cups will work as well as Iwata, then that adds some other size options to the mix. I was thinking about the 2 ml H&S cup for use with my Micron.
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    all the H&S threaded cups fit (including the Micro Ring), as do those from the NEO, and Grex. The Grex have a slightly different contour near the base, so the seam is not as seamless. There is maybe a 1mm lip (if that) with the Grex pieces.

    Oh, and they released the Micron version for retail sale today.

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