What manufacturer, model and years of production?

[Vladimir]

Got me new addition to the AB collection. Can't remember if I'd ever seen this airbrush.
Does anyone know anything about it?
Would be great to know what is in the collection.

All I can say, it's very old and very odd. The thing is definitely of mass production of back years.

Here it is.

 

[Robbyrockett2]

Head looks like a wold....
But the cup looks like gabbert.
Nice find

 

[jord001]

I was tempted to say a wold but I also thought the rear end and air valve were paasche like, cant see or find anything with that setup on the top


Lee

 

[Vladimir]

Head looks like a wold....
But the cup looks like gabbert.
Nice find

The head only looks like Wold, but it's not. I need to take a picture so you could see, it's different. The first time I've seen limiting ring on the air nozzle, like on Iwata RG-3 gun, but very small. It's just that ring you can see between the air nozzle and the head.

I need to search the info about Gabbert.

I was tempted to say a wold but I also thought the rear end and air valve were paasche like, cant see or find anything with that setup on the top


Lee

No, not Wold I've got 1912 Wold (my oldest one) but not much similar there.
I looked at Wold's patents, looks like I hadn't found smth similar.

Not Paasche either. It has totally different air valve. As I understand, if there's valve there, it works horizontally, as there's no usual vertical valve inside. You can only pull back the trigger, no down movement at all.

I think, it's better to disassemble everything, so you all could see that it's something different to most airbrushes.

 

[Robbyrockett2]

I see, it's a lock ring for adjusting the air cap.

 

[Robbyrockett2]

Whatever it is it's obviously heavily influenced by 1910's 1920's Chicago outfits

 

[Vladimir]

Whatever it is it's obviously heavily influenced by 1910's 1920's Chicago outfits

Definitely, Olaus is the Man Not much was done after him, I'd say.

 

[Vladimir]

I see, it's a lock ring for adjusting the air cap.

Exactly

 

[Robbyrockett2]

What air fitting?....paasche ? Or badger type?

 

[Robbyrockett2]

Exactly

See that's like a wold Chandler cross.
But could have been done to go around a certain part of machining accuracy.
It's cool.

 

[Vladimir]

What air fitting?....paasche ? Or badger type?

Haven't measured. Was lazy to open the box with vintage ABs that is in the two room distance A bit tired to open the boxes today
From what I've seen, I'd say M5X1 threads, maybe. I'll measure it to be sure.

 

[Robbyrockett2]

Considering where you are though I don't know if there's much chance of us figuring this out.
The whole area of the world over there is historically filled with manufacturers that would be completely obscure to most of us.

 

[Robbyrockett2]

Wold was all about trying too make fixed double action though from what I read....kept trying to popularize one direction trigger movement.

 

[Vladimir]

See that's like a wold Chandler cross.
But could have been done to go around a certain part of machining accuracy.
It's cool.

I'll take pictures of Wolds and T&Cs and this brush to show the difference.

Considering where you are though I don't know if there's much chance of us figuring this out.
The whole area of the world over there is historically filled with manufacturers that would be completely obscure to most of us.

It's not manufactured here, I'm confident. But I bought it in Kiev, believe it or not.
Maybe, it's smth European, who knows.

 

[Vladimir]

Wold was all about trying too make fixed double action though from what I read....kept trying to popularize one direction trigger movement.

Post the links so I could read either

 

[Robbyrockett2]

http://www.airbrushmuseum.com/airbrush_patents_09.htm

http://www.airbrushmuseum.com/airbrush_history_chicago1.htm

http://www.airbrushmuseum.com/airbrush_history_chicago2.htm

 

[Robbyrockett2]

I'll take pictures of Wolds and T&Cs and this brush to show the difference.



It's not manufactured here, I'm confident. But I bought it in Kiev, believe it or not.
Maybe, it's smth European, who knows.

Oh I see, I just mean on the head looking wold but having an adjustable air cap like a t&c

 

[Robbyrockett2]

That horizontal air valve even looks like the 1897 wold

 

[Robbyrockett2]

If I had to make a guess I'd guess early german stuff... Borrowing heavily of course from existing models......idk just a guess.

 

[Robbyrockett2]

Well, wrong guess.
Idk what this one is but it's Russian, or czheckeslovakian and obviously very similar design.

Your probably on your own.... I highly doubt I'll be much good finding antique Russian /czhec mfgs