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Why you don't use your micron?

Discussion in 'Airbrushes' started by huskystafford, Nov 12, 2019.


  1. jagardn

    jagardn Airbrush Acquisition Disorder Patient Forum Supporter

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    It’s definitely a preference thing. It’s funny though Dru Blair has CM-SB’s for his classes, but every technique used in the classes could easily be done with an Eclipse. If you know the proper technique, there is really no need for a super fine control airbrush. They definitely benefit the hardcore “freehand only” painters, depending on the size of the painting. I used to be one of them until I learned there were faster ways to paint and create more realism than freehand.
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  2. huskystafford

    huskystafford Needle chucking Ninja Staff Member Admin Very Likeable!

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    First of all I am glad I opened this thread. Nice to see so many posts which are clearing things for me. If airbrush like ''micron'' for example, make user to have more fun, then with some other airbrush this is a game changer for some. Let me explain. If I will struggle with some airbrush cause I am lacking skills I will not paint so much and end result will be not painting at all. Also skill would be less and less each day cause of this.
    But if I pick ''micron'' and I have fun, this would translate to more hours painting and also skill increase cause of time invested in painting.

    So ''fun'' factor is not so innocent.

    Just thinking out loud.
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    Why would I use "so and so", instead of "so and so"?

    Well, frankly... because I can ;).

    Really, the answer to this question will be different for everyone. There is one brush, one needle and nozzle combination, or trigger weight and location, that just "fits" a user, that could potentially make any brush that "GO TO" piece. There is just no one size fits all brush or answer...
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    Nessus Needle-chuck Ninja

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    A a model painter, I have to second this. It's both tempting and fun to use an airbrush for small details and fine control gradient stuff, BUT very often you can get visually identical results with even better control by using "hairy" brush techniques.

    For model painting, the only things you arguably might actually NEED and airbrush for are priming and smooth application of solid colors and clears. For large gradients and shading, airbrushes are better than hairy brushes, but not an absolute necessity. For details, you're actually better off with traditional brushes... but airbrushes can sometimes be more fun, and if it's a hobby that's the whole point anyway.
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  5. huskystafford

    huskystafford Needle chucking Ninja Staff Member Admin Very Likeable!

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    ....you are sniper man, I am artillery man. In my case, where paint drops it drops. I am praying to hit something :D
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    For me it ‘right tool for the job’
    Tool ‘A’ is great for some things
    Tool ‘B’ is great for some things

    I have a collection of Iwata because they feel good in my hand.
    When I do a paint pal I always grab my micron because it’s a small picture and the micron makes easy work of it and will also do any solid background I need ( with the whole picture being less than 5” x 7” any background isn’t large)

    if I’m doing a A4 size picture I’d go with my HP B for most of it, then a micron for the fine detail if needed
    If I’m doing an A3 I would grab my eclipse CS quicker coverage and probably the HP-b for the finer detail.

    if I’m using pearls/metallics I grab the eclipse or the TH (depending on the size of the project)

    Why would I grab a sledgehammer to bang in a nail when a small carpenters hammer will do the job with ease and more finesse ?
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  7. Mr.Micron

    Mr.Micron Royal pain in the air hose Staff Member Admin Mod

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    Cause a sledgehammer makes a bigger mess when ya miss the nail LMAO
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    jagardn Airbrush Acquisition Disorder Patient Forum Supporter

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    One major difference, and why I’d never suggest a Micron for a beginner(not stating you are a beginner). While it may be more fun and the Micron makes derail easier(once you know the proper paint reduction ratios), what is not fun is replacing parts. I got back into airbrushing with an HP-CH and damaged multiple needles and nozzles practicing dagger strokes and detail work up close. It was expensive enough to replace the parts on that brush. Had it been a Micron, I would have had to take out a second mortgage.
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    Yeah like a .35 eclipse @30psi trying to do an eyelash lol
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    huskystafford Needle chucking Ninja Staff Member Admin Very Likeable!

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    I never told you that. How do you know?

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    As I see the perfect plan for purchasing expensive tools:

    1. Be sure you have grown enough and now really ready to perform detailed drawing.
    2. Check if the airbrush you a looking at is a fine tool by public opinion.
    3. Check its needle price :D
    4. If you are still looking at it - buy and test it yourself.

    As for buying good brands even if their tools are generally not the cheapest - definitely yes.
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    huskystafford Needle chucking Ninja Staff Member Admin Very Likeable!

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    I went to check needle prices cause of you -.-
    Needle doesn't seems so expensive. I mean I wouldn't go broke if I destroy one or two of them...

    Screenshot_2019-11-13 Iwata Custom Micron CM-SB Spares(1).png

    On other hand nozzle seems a little pricey...

    Buying head system would make me depressed :laugh:
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    markjthomson AKA QuickDraw and very happy #nobrushleftbehind Staff Member Admin

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    For the last few pictures I've used my eclipse... thinking about "level of detail" compared to ease of use... I can get pretty good detail using my eclipse and it is less affected by tip dry, blocking, etc. Don't get me wrong, I like the micron BUT the eclipse is the easier of the two to use.
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    Husky, I reckon ruining a nozzle would be pretty hard, a needle on the other hand...

    That's a bit unexpected for me but I surely will take a note of that.
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    huskystafford Needle chucking Ninja Staff Member Admin Very Likeable!

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    why would anybody buy a head system?
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    Size of job determines which gun to use. If you would be doing a billboard, I'll use a spraygun.
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    The only time I can think of would be if you do a full conversion from 0.23 to 0.18 or vice versa or if you often swap between the two sizes which I don't know why because the two perform pretty close each other.
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    thank you, that was quite confusing for me.
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    I think one can even ask why do you use "this micron" instead of "that micron" because while I prefer the H&S, I prefer my Evolution CR+ over my Infinity CR+ because it is shinier, the smooth rear of the Evolution feel so much better on my skin and I feel that it is more balanced. But mostly because it is shiner. :D

    Why don't I use my microns that much? Personal preference and application.

    The Gunpla models I paint have parts that ranges from 4mm x 3mm to 15cm x 5cm. If I use my micron and do all these parts at once, I will eventually switch to the Evolution and end up needing to clean 2 airbrushes. While the micron makes it easiest to do the smallest parts, the Evolution is also capable of doing all that as well as laying down smooth wet layers of paints on larger surfaces with ease.

    Most importantly, I somehow find the Evolution most comfortable and shiny. Just like to hold it in my hands. :laugh:
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    I changed all the gold bits on my Evolution to the silver ones from the AL-Plus. I don't like gold and that is also why I don't use my Infinity. If I could get a silver waist and preset button, I would convert that too. But my AL-Plus is starting to overtake my Evolution as my preferred H&S gun.
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